P0413 Secondary Air Injection System

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  1. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    hi and hello,, ok 2003 .955i , idle bad , under 60 kph runs bad the slower the worst, triumph teck found air leak throttle body. Really dirty, , report. Says after market. Silence , kn prof...... Air filter a tune for ues with said air filter and silencer with secondary air injection ,,, the wire is cut ,,, faults cleard ,, not secodery air ,,,, ok would that be the problem secondary air ,, uesd a cheap obd that gave. Me that code .. I thankyou all ,
     
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  2. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    I haven't had a 955 so this may not be totally relevant.
    I have a 675 and a 765 with secondary air delete kits. Within those kits is a jackplug with a resistor to emulate the valve being present when it isn't.
    Could your valve be faulty and not providing the necessary resistance?
    Is the wiring to it intact and functional?

    Certainly sounds air leak related by the "slower is worse" comment.
    Have you checked all vacuum hose connections are made and air tight?
     
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  3. joe mc donald

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    Can't help but welcome to the family and hope you get sorted soon. Joe
     
  4. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    No the wiring is cut not coneted , air leak, did have but went to triumph and got sorted so they say.and yes doz sound like air leak ,,, wounder wether its dirty injection, given the. Throtoll bodys wear reall dirty. ; and yes 600$ and they said fixst and handed. The bike over
     
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  5. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    thankyou
     
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  6. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    hi, , u have me thinking, the obd reading says, secondery air injection system switching vale A circuit open ,,, so doz that mean the bikes computer believes the valve is open , and canges the fule mix ,? :. Ok would that happened. ;?. And wy is the wire. Cut ,?.
     
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  7. Eldon

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    Is it possible to reconnect the wiring, depending on how its been cut, obviously?

    A few photos may help ;)
     
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  8. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    Ii woz thinkin. Of connecting. Wiring. ; its cut at the swich at the air box ,top front about 3 inchers of wiriing , hvant found wear the rest is not had a good look as yet , i just got the bike dont know its history, i keep thinking wy ar they cut , if it the unit not working doz it through a check engine light. ,, cut the wriring clear check ligh ,is that why the cut wiring
     
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  9. blacktiger

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    #9 blacktiger, Apr 15, 2024
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    The 955i didn't have secondary air injection. This engine was a 1990s design before all that nonsense was invented.
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    So, What it really needs is damn good clean through and a fuel filter change. The fuel filter is supposed to be changed every 12000 miles. it's a Mahle filter KL145.
     
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  10. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    Thanks. ;, information and advice thankyou. Much needed how else. Can we flx problems, ,i will try to put a photo. Up so wots the unit it on the front top of the air box it like. A switch valve thigamagig very. Tec word, ok 2 hose. Left 1 right ,, 2 wiring both. Black at the top of the. Unit . On mine thiar cut , thanks
     
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  11. Eldon

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    A few pics would help us further assist ;)
     
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  12. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    Hi one and all,,, ok work shop manual says secondary air is on the bike haz a photo of it and its on the bike iv seen it. Ane one that has a manual for 955i sprint have a look ok it went a triumph work shop , report and fixs cracked fule coneters , air leaking vacuum hose. : Dirty throttle body. All take care of as in fixst , haz turned for after mark. Silencer and air filter. Withie secandary air inge,,,,,,,, secondary air injection wiring cut ,, End report,,, obd reading secondaryaie air loop open ok question so the bike computers. Is ajusting the fule air mix wrong thinking its open , would That make the. Bike run so? . I dont drive a car have 1 bike dont wont toave bike down for days looking,, and tank on tank of plastic. Conetors and origs .. I got o rings from a oil seal and rolla baring suplyer 1$ each
     
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  13. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    ok bike haz bad idale miss fiers or rather dozent fier , like 123 132 103 123 120 023 123123 103 , 0 means dozent fier ,, 60kpm and under the slower the worst it gets ,, ok good cold start runs not to bad 10 minits or so wen it warm it gets wors . O and triumph shop test 4 spark ingni,,,, all good
     
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  14. Pegscraper

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    The OBD code "circuit open" means the ECU isn't seeing the sensor/relay/valve etc that it should be, it doesn't mean the valve is open. If the wire has been cut and left it would give this fault. As Eldon has said, that's why the removal kit has a plug or "fake valve" to fool the ECU.
    All markets didn't get air injection at the same time so it's quite possible your bike had it from new even though UK spec machines of that era didn't.
     
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  15. blacktiger

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    Intake air temperature sensor.
     
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  16. zerzwadja

    zerzwadja New Member

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    Thanks 4 the. Information.. Ok so i nead to either reconnects the unit or install removal kit. ;, i wozant saying the valve is open i believe it closesd but ECU thinks it is and change fule and air because it thinks valve is open , so bike gets a incorrect fule mix ,, is that wy the bike runs bad this. ; Is wot im asking??? ; thanks
     
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  17. joe mc donald

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    If you want to give some pictures it would help people. Just hit the upload a file button bottom right and transfer photo's from your computer laptop or similar. Joe
     
  18. MightyBoosh

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    #18 MightyBoosh, Apr 19, 2024
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    In the absence of a plug to fool the ECU into thinking there's a fault, a resistor is a common workaround. Forgot the value, think it might be 100 ohm. A google search will sort you l reckon..
    So, a quick dig shows for example a guy fixing a 2010 Scrambler with a 470ohm 5W resistor. Low wattage resistor may burn, so go 5W for safety.
     
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  19. MightyBoosh

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    And remember to do the three hot/cold cycles after as l imagine this will be a stored historic fault so won't clear of its own accord
     
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