Disaster Strikes!

Discussion in 'Triumph General Discussion' started by TonyG, Mar 13, 2024.

  1. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Here's a picture from the 7th March

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    Spot the difference, here's a picture from tonight.

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    Yep the difference is somewhere between £500 and a £1000 :sob:
     
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  2. littleade

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    Fork orrffff ?
     
  3. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Nearly funny : unamused: but have you seen the price of JUST the casting?

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  4. littleade

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    Ouch, my bad sorry. I didn't see the last bit of text.
     
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  5. Eldon

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    #25 Eldon, Mar 16, 2024
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    And then there's the DISCONTINUED mudguard for a 5 year old bike bit :mad:

    Triumph is not filling me with confidence here and I feel it's a really poor show.

    The level of engineering can you believe is BEHIND Royal Enfield at this moment in time with a classic accountants ruling the show over sound engineering practices.
    Very similar forks on both but RE haven't robbed the machining off the damper rod....... yet!
    If you wish to lock the damper tube on an RE you need to put a special locking tool down the inside as we always used to, I have a few, but not on the 2019 Triumph Street Twin, oh no, these are SUPER ECONOMY forks so no internal machining is wasted :eek: A rammed in broom handle is required because how else can you lock a machined 18.5mm diameter with a 24mm diameter above it?

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    Seriously unimpressed Triumph with your poor engineering!
    The Accountant's are running the asylum :mad:

    These are bolted in place using factory thread lock on a M10 x 1.0 thread. My pneumatic buzz gun has never failed this job until now and just couldn't hammer the spinning, unlockable, internal bit adequately to beat the glue.

    I ended up with the wife, picture it now, "ooh I've never used one of these before", just press the bloody trigger whilst I hang on for dear life on the sweeping brush head to try locking it FFS!

    I have three Triumphs and this has certainly placed a cloud over my ownership and my future purchases!

    Value engineering has to be the biggest con term under the sun; how can we get the customers to pay more for less?
     
  6. Eldon

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    #26 Eldon, Mar 16, 2024
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    The youngster denied it hit it initially, but with x2 big scratches down the front and seat tube, and only a few weeks old it wasn't holding any credibility!
    A quick tape measure of the aftermath soon convinced him.

    A brand new £2k pushbike with a raked frame, all for nothing :sob:

    And the reason he moved the ST was.....
    I had cleaned my old mtb ready for sale and it looked mint.
    He was going to wash my old mtb after he'd got it muddy on a test ride this morning ( a condition of him using it) as he has his eyes on it over his own mtb.

    All good intentions but.....
     
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  7. Wessa

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    Bad luck @Eldon I’m sure the youngster is very sorry for his good deed going horribly wrong.
     
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  8. Wessa

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    Bad luck @Eldon I’m sure the youngster is very sorry for his good deed going horribly wrong.
     
  9. Boothman

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    As the adage goes “No good deed goes unpunished”. It’s only money and you can only spend it :cool:
     
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  10. Eldon

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    #30 Eldon, Mar 17, 2024
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    Frustrating to say the least.
    Fork upgrade kit sits on the shelf for months awaiting install time.
    Forks get stripped x3 times in just over a week :rolleyes:

    Fortunately I have free access to powdercoating and all the marked bits are now in the boot of my car.
    Other bits ordered and so far we're at £150 and counting :tired_face:

    It's not the end of the world, and the youngesters attitude all weekend tells me he may have learnt something.
    The young un did thank me last night for not getting too annoyed with him although he did get a tube of T-Cut wanged at him at one point o_O
     
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  12. Eldon

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    And that's your only contribution to this thread?

    @TonyG unfortunately found himself placed in a poor position through no direct fault of his own. I empathised with him, as I stated in my post, as I too shared a similar situation.

    Apologises @TonyG if I acted out of line.
     
  13. TonyG

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    No need to apologise, doesn't worry me at all. Just sorry to hear your own tale of woe!
     
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  14. Eldon

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    @TonyG any further progress on your situation?

    Here's my fork legs, washed of oil (hot soapy water) and ready for powdercoating later this week ;)

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  15. Baza

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    If you calculate the cost effect that a reduction to your NCB will have in the event of a claim, not just for your next renewal but until you have regained the NCB %age you enjoyed before the prang compared to the cost of protecting your NCB for the same number of years you may view the option of protecting your NCB differently. I have given up protecting my NCB on all of my vehicle policies.

    If the other party has clearly admitted liability, as would appear to be the case in this instance, why are the injured party’s insurers even involved? Surely it’s a dialogue between the repairing dealer and the claims assessor of the other party’s insurers?

    @TonyG mentions that his helmet took a tiny ding. However small I would get this inspected by the manufacturer to ensure that it is fit for further use and to provide peace of mind.

    I would also not dismiss the option of being reimbursed for being forcibly dismounted and ending up on the floor. Worth a conversation with the other party’s insurers because they know that the ambulance chasers are a load of crooks who would encourage you to require a replacement bike whilst yours is being repaired. The daily rate for that replacement bike which they would provide will be astronomic AND if the other party’s insurers refused to pay for it they would look to the injured party who engaged them to fork up the crinkle. So it’s worth a conversation with the other insurers because they know they will be stiffed if you do engage these crooks.
     
  16. ivenoidea

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    Strewth ! that's rotten luck for sure,but you have survived what could have been far worse.Good luck with everything.
     
  17. TonyG

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    Nope, nothing yet, just awaiting the estimate, I think one of my fork legs was scraped as well.
     
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  18. TonyG

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    My insurers aren't involved now, I informed them of the incident and that I'd had confirmation that the van drivers insurers were accepting liability and they said it was closed then as far as they were concerned.
    His insurers did say I would get £10 a day until my bike is returned. I've told them that my clothing was ok but that the helmet would need replacing, but they have not replied yet. Lind West London just replace all damaged parts, no repairs as such, so I think they are claiming for any extras, e.g Puig clutch lever, Weslake exhaust, etc., so hopefully I won't lose out. I guess it could be written off even if only cosmetic damage and that would be worrying as presume I'll have to fight for a half decent payout.
     
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  19. Baza

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    Hopefully others can advise on this but I don’t see how they can write the machine off as they are not the insurers. The current market value compared to the cost of repairs may well influence the financial limit to which they are prepared to go. Keep the possibility of personal injury on the table, after all if your helmet requires replacement you must have taken a fair whack on the head, not to mention that stiff, painful neck?:joy:
     
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  20. Eldon

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    The world loves a tryer @Baza eh :joy:
     
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