Street Twin Brake Disc

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  1. beerkat

    beerkat Senior Member

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    The original Street Twin has a non-floating 310mm front brake disc. The second gen Street Twin comes with a better Brembo caliper and floating brake disc. Does anyone know if the floating brake disc (not the caliper) will fit the earlier ST's?
     
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    Anyone tried this mod? Or can someone with the 2nd gen Street Twin tell me the diameter of the front disc?

    Hmm, done a bit of research on this. The ABS pulser ring on the older model is part no. T2022122 but the newer one is T2022022 and costs significantly more. This suggests that the pulser ring from the older model is not compatible with the newer disc.
     
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  3. beerkat

    beerkat Senior Member

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    Still pursuing this search. I'm looking for a floating front disc to replace the non-floater on my 1st gen Street twin.
    The floating disc from the 2nd gen Street Twin has a different ABS pulsar ring, so I'm guessing that won't work.

    Today I was at the Superbike shop in Macclesfield and noticed a T100 with the same 2-pot caliper as my ST but with a floating disc. I think the 1st gen T100 came with the same brake set up as the 1st gen Street Twin (ie. non-floating disc) but this was later upgraded to the floating disc BUT it kept the same caliper. If this is the case then that floating disc from the T100 should fit the ST and be compatible with the ABS.

    Any useful comments or advice appreciated, especially from T100 owners.

    I have thought about asking at a Triumph dealer but I know from experience they probably won't have a clue!
     
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  4. RevPaul

    RevPaul Senior Member

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    Sorry I didn't reply. I did read your OP and did do a bit of research but because you were taking about using a 2nd gen Street Twin floating disc I didn't reply because the part numbers for that disc is different from that used on the T100 and the Street Cup.

    What I can tell you (based on the World of Triumph parts finder web pages).

    The 1st Gen Street Twin and Street Cup use the same LHS lower fork casting, so the Nissin calliper used on both bikes is in the same place relative to the disc.

    The Street Cup floating disc and the T100 floating disc share the same part number T2021404. The ABS Pulser ring on the 1st Gen Street Twin, Street Cup and T100 share the same part number T2022122.

    I take from that that the floating disc from the Street Cup and T100 will most likely fit and work with your 1st Gen Street Twin and the standard Nissin Calliper. The only variable left for the Brembo calliper I can think of is the thickness and diameter of the disc on the 2nd Gen Street Twin compared to our bikes' discs.

    Hope that helps.:)
     
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  5. beerkat

    beerkat Senior Member

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    That is extremely helpful Paul and thanks for going to the trouble of checking part numbers.
    So it looks like the floating disc (T2021404) will be straight swop with my non-floater and the pulsar ring should be compatible. Excellent.

    The reason I'm thinking of doing this is because I have a Brembo 4-pot caliper that will fit my Street Twin (using a Free Spirits adapter) and work with the standard non-floating disc. I am going to fit it anyway but I thought if I'm going to the trouble of upgrading the caliper I may as well see if I can find a floating disc.
    I know EBC make one for the 1st gen ST, so that's an option, but I would prefer to use a Triumph part if possible.
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    Cheers Paul.
     
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  6. ivenoidea

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    Hi, i have fitted a Nissin 3 pot caliper for a CB1000 to my Street twin 2018,its a straight fit,brand new and converted from the dual braking system so that all three pots work.They are brand new on E-bay from an Italian,worth considering.They look neater than a system that requires a bracket to fit another caliper.Look good and work well.

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  7. beerkat

    beerkat Senior Member

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    I agree, that looks neat. However as I already have the Brembo 4-pot I'm not going to lay out even more squids for a new caliper. Thanks anyway.
     
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  8. ivenoidea

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    Hi,i wasn't trying to influence you into spending more it was more for any others following the thread, another point to consider is changing the master cylinder to deliver more pressure to the 4 pot.I think the standard is 11mm.good luck,OApete.
     
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    beerkat Senior Member

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    You're right about the master cylinder, the standard is 11mm. I'm assuming you've not changed yours, or you would have said. I have info that says the 11mm ms. will be fine with the upgraded caliper but if necessary a 12.5mm ms. from other Triumph models can be fitted.
     
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  10. ivenoidea

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    Hi, i did get a 14mm but decided the brakes were adequate as is.todays issue is i have fitted Triumph LED indicators but have no life in them whatsoever ? will check fuse and relay tomorrow.Good luck.
     
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    beerkat Senior Member

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    Where did you get the 14mm master cylinder? Is it a Triumph part from another model?
     
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  12. ivenoidea

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    Hi, its off of a Triumph Daytona 595,from e-bay,used,cleaned up very well.I imagine several would fit the bars.Good luck.
     
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  13. beerkat

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    I've just discovered (via YouTube 'Toni Reviews' 23/9/19) that Triumph made a floating disc upgrade kit for the Street Twin, part no. A9628040.
    As far as I can tell it seems to be discontinued :confounded:. Now why have they done that? It would have made my life so much easier :mad:
     
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  14. RevPaul

    RevPaul Senior Member

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    Hi @beerkat. Guess what was in the kit.

    The Street Cup / T100 floating disc T2021404 and five disc bolts.

    So not really any easier, just a bit cheaper than the cost of the parts.:)
     
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    beerkat Senior Member

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    Thanks yet again Paul! I'll order it after I've got the caliper adapter, just in case there are any issues.
     
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    Do you think the brake upgrade will achieve much?

    This is my ST today undergoing YSS fork internals upgrade including emulators.

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  17. beerkat

    beerkat Senior Member

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    Yes I do. From day 1 I felt that the Street Twin brakes were underpowered. One twin-pot caliper trying to haul down 300kgs (bike + rider) from 100+mph doesn't sound good on paper and in my opinion doesn't work well enough on the road. My 3 Jap bikes all weigh significantly less and have more than twice the stopping power. Up to a point I've got used to it and ride accordingly, but there are occasions when rapid braking is required and the Street Twin could be better. I've tried the pad swop and maybe that made a slight improvement but a 4-pot caliper on a floating disc has got to make a bigger improvement.
    Strange how Triumph came to the same conclusion in 2021 and made exactly that upgrade.
     
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  18. beerkat

    beerkat Senior Member

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    Interestingly I've just got off the phone to Youles in Manchester. I made the enquiry about the floating disc upgrade pretty much expecting the answer I got. The sales people don't know, the technicians don't know and Triumph head office won't say one way or the other.
     
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  19. ivenoidea

    ivenoidea Member

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    Hi, i think you would have to be riding extremely hard for long periods on the open road to notice / warrant the need for floating discs,they look good though and that matters also.great for the track.Pete.
     
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  20. beerkat

    beerkat Senior Member

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    You may well be right and I wouldn't bother with just swopping the original disc for a floating one unless I was changing the caliper as well.
    Makes you wonder though, why Triumph marketed a floating disc only upgrade kit for the 1st gen Street Twin (up until 2019 at least) if it made no difference. They then pulled it from their accessory list and a few months later the 2nd gen ST was released.
     
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