About To Buy My First Triumph Speed Triple Rs

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  1. pinkstripedzebra

    pinkstripedzebra New Member

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    Good morning all,
    I am priyank and I have been a motorcycle enthusiast since I was a kid.
    I currently own a svartpilen 401 (in us) and wanted to get an upgrade. I love triumph and was looking at street triple RS 2024 and 2023 costing around 13k. When I came across a 2019 speed triple rs with 1300 miles on it. I saw the machine and it looks like new. The dealership is asking for $11k. Is this a fair deal? Is there anything else I need to know before I proceed with the purchase and in terms of cost of ownership? I am planning to use this motorcycle as a daily rider. Also, all the speed triple owners please shed some light on ownership. I am going to hold on to whatever I buy next for long term. And I am confused with pre-owned speed or new street triple.
     
  2. Helmut Visor

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    Howdy Priyank :cool:
     
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  3. Bikerman

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  4. Mrs Visor

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    Hi and welcome! Could you test ride a Speed and a Street and see which you prefer?
     
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    Hi, my own experiences would have me going straight for the street triple. I love big powerful bikes, but I think the lighter street triple is very nearly as fast, faster on a windy road. It's more comfortable and most of all, the street triple is simply more fun to ride, it puts a bigger smile on my face and it has a better suspension setup for road riding. It's a better all rounder. There are also some gearbox issues surrounding the 1050 speed triple. The 765 is sublime, one of the best handling, well sorted machines money can buy. It will put bigger bikes to shame in the real world.
     
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  7. Boothman

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    Hi and welcome to the forum :cool:
     
  8. Markus

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    Hi there! Welcome to the forum! ;)
    I would go for the new model, if you can afford it. I don't find the price of the 2019 model is that great.
     
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  9. Alan Gilbert

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    I have a 2019 Speed Triple. It’s a good, solid bike with a well tried and tested motor. At 150PS, it has the last incarnation of the 1050 motor. Fueling and throttle response is excellent and it’s easy to ride. Neither are great machines for pillions and neither are great for carrying luggage but can achieve both at a stretch. If regular pillion/luggage carrying is important to you, then look elsewhere.
    Both are naked and so sustained speeds over 70mph are tiresome, especially with a headwind.
    Country lane blasts are great fun but the Ohlins suspension is a little firm for roads with a poor surface - you will find yourself getting jolted around quite a bit but on reasonable tarmac, the handling is great.
    Known issues
    1. Triumph used a notoriously unreliable keyless ignition system. The Smart key often fails but if so, the bike can still be started in passive mode. When the key fails, it can be reset by removing and replacing the battery or perhaps later fobs are more reliable but beware - they are expensive. Perhaps discuss this with the dealer because it’s a bit of a nuisance to be honest.
    2. The gearbox is fine for manual use and indeed, it also works well 99% of the time with the Triumph-supplied quickshifter if fitted. The problem is the 1% of the time when it hits a false neutral and the gearbox then slams into gear at full throttle - it will and does destroy the gearbox. Plenty of bikes required replacement gearboxes under warranty. For this reason, if the bike you are interested in has a quickshifter fitted, I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole. If it doesn’t have a quickshifter, it will be fine and the gearbox is generally pretty sweet.
    3. Finally, if you do your own servicing, there is a major gotcha lurking and ready to bite your ball sack!!!!!
    When changing the oil, it is imperative to drain the old oil and remove the filter as normal but when refilling, ALWAYS refill with oil BEFORE installing the filter. When you have added your oil, only then install the filter.
    This is counter-intuitive as you would imagine the oil would pour out of the open filter hole - it doesn’t. When Triunph produced this last variant, they redesigned the sump and at oil changes, it is prone to developing an airlock between the oil pickup and the pump. This means that when you start the engine, there will be no oil pressure and the oil light will stay on and after a minute or so, the engine will be scrap.
    The modified fill procedure prevents an airlock developing and it is imperative it is followed.
    The downside is that most techs will not be aware of the service bulletin from Triumph and will fill incorrectly which is why I would NEVER, NEVER let anyone change the oil except me.
    Great bike -enjoy it. Price seems fair if U.S dollars if maybe a tiny bit steep.
     
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  10. pinkstripedzebra

    pinkstripedzebra New Member

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    Trying to live the dream ! :p How are you?
     
  11. pinkstripedzebra

    pinkstripedzebra New Member

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    Greetings !
     
  12. pinkstripedzebra

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    I am located on cusp of Massachusetts and New Hampshire and I reached out to couple dealerships in both states and they said they don’t do test rides.
     
  13. pinkstripedzebra

    pinkstripedzebra New Member

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    Thank you for the insights.
     
  14. pinkstripedzebra

    pinkstripedzebra New Member

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    Thank you.
     
  15. pinkstripedzebra

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    You believe it is expensive?
     
  16. pinkstripedzebra

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    thank you very much for detailed explanation. I appreciate the input. I am going to look at motorcycle in person today and ask about quick shifter. Yes I prefer servicing my own motor. This is very new and I am hearing it for the first time about this installation of airfilter after engine oil.
     
  17. speeder

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    Yep, agree with all that particularly the quickshifter bit, they are definitely bad news on a 1050,however they last for years with manual shifting.
     
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  18. TRIPLE X

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    Agree with the above but have got to say that I have not had any issues with the keyless ignition (I make a point of changing the key fob battery every 2 years regardless). And no quickshifter therefore no gearbox issues. I also do my own servicing and oil changes following the latest procedure but be sure to replace the filter before starting the engine for obvious reasons ! Overall I love my Speedie.
     
  19. Alan Gilbert

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    Interested to hear you’ve had no problems with your smart key. It’s definitely not a battery issue as mine goes duff regularly, even with a brand new battery.
    It’s weird - the bike simply doesn’t acknowledge the presence of the key but it is nigh on impossible to pin down the problem due to inconsistent behaviour.
    1. When it fails to respond, the key can be used in passive mode and the bike started. If the engine is now switched off, it can be restarted using the key as a smart key, even though the key hasn’t been touched - suggests a bike problem.
    2. Alternatively, when it fails to respond, the fob battery can be removed and reinserted and it generally then works again in smart mode - suggests a fob problem.
    Wretched thing has a mind of its own!!!!!
     
  20. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Senior Member

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    I suspect a new fob is required but like you say they are very expensive and there is no guarantee that it is in fact the problem?
     

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