Noise "cameras".....

Thank heavens we were here when real vehicles were on the road. V8 V12 etc - can you imagine Steve McQueen using a Tesla in Bullet? Or Knightrider Kit on AAA cells.

 

Getting complicated, speed/noise camera ahead....
Brake, roll throttle, dip clutch, coast.

 

Is this not a case of.....
Out law guns then guns are held by outlaws.

Will this just not drive noise MORE into the countryside whilst we all behave ourselves burbling through the urban areas on tickover?

 

I think they maybe thinking of the same here in Australia , we already have huge fines for noise pollution control on Car's & Motorcycles. Below copy of first link on excessive noise laws in Australia !!

These offences are punishable by a fine of up to $1250 or imprisonment for 6 months [see Summary Offences Act 1953 (SA) s 54(5)]. Police officers may also have the power to seize and impound a motor vehicle emitting excessive noise [see Clamping, impounding, seizure and forfeiture

Thats ~ £600 ~ and a lot of time in the klink ! I know WA police have had noise blitz on more than one occasion ! Nearly got pulled at Como beach front about 14 yrs ago, I had a 1999 Sprint ST 955 @ the time , can was gutted (no baffling or sound absorbing wrap) but The Officer selecting who went 'IN' the testing area waved me through !! There were quite a mix of Bike's.
Honda,yam, Kawa & Suzuki etc sports bike's
Ducati's of all models
Harley Davidsons largest portion of tests !!!

They were set up blocking the road at the Como hotel beach front intersection .... !

 

They may setup manned noise testing stations at or near the "entrance or exits" of popular rural "race" tracks, somewhere they might be hard to get around !!

 

Where I live the loudest bikes always seem to have an "L" plate on the back. Most bike riders I know hate the dreded Harleys with straight out pipes that hurt your ears when they accelerate away from you in a built up area. They are the ones that will bring us all undone. However, until it becomes "all about the money" and fines are large enough to warrant the effort I think we will be ok.

 

I guess it all depends on your view of what loud is.
Most bikes that come from the factory are within the legal noise levels. The problem starts when after market cans are added. So it is down to individuals on whether to stay within the limits or not.

 

Trouble is the loud pipes are usually connected to some fool who has to be revving the engine to keep it running and believes it enhances their poor shifting/driving technique.

 

My missus and I were well chuffed when we saw this story on the TV news. We're sick of the idiots that tear up and down our back street in the middle of the night ( probably so they won't get caught) with their obnoxious, antisocial machines blasting away at full chat. Complete arseholes if you ask us and deserve whatever they get.

 

Of course loud pipes save lives. You can hear a girlie Sportster with straight through pipes from miles away and even more miles away when it's passed. I never have straight through pipes and quiet them down as much as I can on all my builds (the loud pipes really annoy me when I'm riding). I can't even remember how many cars have moved out of my way when they've heard me coming, particularly when it's warm and the windows are open. Pedestrians nearly having a heart attack when they've heard me rather than just stepping off the kerb while looking at their phone.
The study is just a joke - some students measuring from inside a car with the windows shut and the music on. pffft.

The old BSAs and Trumpets I've owned have all been noisy as standard but would easily pass the law's requirement of 80dB riding passed at 50kph in top gear. Sitting still and revvin the bollox off of them would, however be blimmin' loud.

Quotes from the Motorcycle Industry Association is just them pushing their own agenda - protecting their industry mates from all those "illegal exhausts".
Trials by Atkins- Jacobs design contractors again generating their own work in the Highways industry as usual.
Police saying that if there's enough complaints they'll have to clamp down - what? just like they are clamping down on motorcycle thieves and all the other 'petty crimes' they can't be arsed with. Currently they find loud pipes by "subjectively patrolling police".
Fuck me, I can't hear myself think when an ear splittin HOG group ride by. Or when there's some carrot revving to the limiter on his wheel spinning rocket ship. I don't need to be 'subjective' when these tossers are about. There they are, over there - go fine them.
The whole thing just smells of money gathering.
Go pick on the bad boys and earn a living for a change rather than justifing easy pickings from me.

It makes me so mad, so it does Ah well, I'll be hanging me old bikes up on the wall soon. Here's a calm picture that I took earlier today (to get away from wiring up the Bonny) while out for a stroll. Thank you.....over....

 

I think the bigger picture needs looking at, this is an assault on our freedom to choose, most aftermarket exhausts are marked road legal, they do become noisy when the baffle is removed, but most people leave them in. It is not only noise monitoring cameras to worry about, more is to come. Regarding the noise cameras, we have the Conservative Transport Secretary Grant Shapps to thank for pushing this agenda forward, trials are due to take place in the near future, and is being led by Atkins-Jacobs joint venture, the director is Andrew Pearce, he is who we have to thank for this assault on our freedom of choice. Pearce is set to make obscene amounts of profits if this rolls out nationally. There are 4 areas across England and Wales for the trials, no interest as yet from the Scottish Government thanks goodness. One of my classic 65 year old machines has what I can say is an extremely loud exhaust, louder than most after market cans with no baffle in, it runs straight through pipes, that is how it was made, their is no production quieter exhaust made to replace them (nor would I do so, it would take away it's heritage), I love the noise it makes, so sod the Snowflake Brigade I will continue riding it in anger (that's what it was made for). On the same theme of eroding our freedom of choice, the recent Anti Tampering proposed regulations will not now ban motorcycle modifications, thank's to all forum members that took the time to respond to the consultation document (the DfT did not make it easy for us with the unwieldy document), thank's must go to MAG who first brought this to our attention, and did an amazing job. Having written to most major motoring organisations asking what representations they proposed to countenance this ill thought out proposal, I received no responses whatsoever, apart from acknowledging my correspondence, as a result I will not renew my long standing IAM membership for both bike and car, I also declined to renew my AA membership, and sourced an alternative, MAG is worth the membership as they truly represent motorcycling interests. NABD was also vocal regarding the proposals, as was the NMC. I await the detailed plans.

 

Imprisonment?! There must be more room for inmates in Australians prisons than here in the U.S. Geez, it would make more sense if red light runners were imprisoned than drivers/riders with loud pipes. Red light runners KILL people, FFS! At least that's what's happening here in Tucson.

 

And I'd bet that the "rural beauty spots" that are areas for tourism or havens for the rich would be more likely to be where noise ordinances are implemented and enforced.

 

Follow the money........

 

Anti tamper laws - here in WA tampering with your exhaust and making more noise is punishable by huge fines and even jail time , but if your vehicle's exhaust gas neutralizing catalytic converter dies and is no longer working , there is no Legal Requirement to replace it with a new or working one !?

 

Iceman, that wasn't a post, that was an epic. You should be writing opinion pieces for your newspaper