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  1. DCS900

    DCS900 Careful, man! There’s a beverage here!

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    Russia, after a theatrical display of recognising a couple of breakaway regions in the Ukraine yesterday, are now moving in. Very little mention on the forum about it; just wondering on opinions... next world war, fear for your children? Or another regional scuffle that will have sabres rattling, sanctions imposed, but essentially contained within the Ukraine?
     
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  2. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Crème de la Crème

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    What is it with Putin? He’s suffering from “little man” syndrome, surely.
     
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  3. Oldskool

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    Feckin scary. I’ve just bought MotoGP tickets for Assen in June . I hope to get there and back before he invades Holland. ….
    On a more serious note, this is pretty serious shit. Probably as big as we’ve seen in our lifetime……
     
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  4. Adie P

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    Yes, very serious shit! Putin is an existential threat to peace and is fairly transparent in his posturing and political manouevering.

    If there really is such a thing as a "world order" it ought to be brought fully into action immediately to hurt Russia in every possible, peaceful way - primarily through economic measures. Start seizing the known assests - physical and financial - of every Russian citizen in this country and Europe; consider travel bans to Russian citizens in Europe and cease all co-operation with Russian business and industry.

    Much of that might come back to bite us on the bum - Russia and its Federation has enormous capabilities in every sphere and is, clearly, unafraid to use them when it suits, but I do believe that, if its actions do remain unchallenged, then they will remain unstoppable.

    The situation is made ever more serious with all the recent 'best buddies' posturing between Russia and China - a Putin/Jinping axis is a very scary prospect.
     
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  5. Vulpes

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    Very serious and scary indeed, as neither government gives a toss about human life. Be it theirs or ours.

    Mao ze Dong, back in the day, about the threat of getting nuked; "We can easily miss twenty million people".
     
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  6. DCS900

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    VP has been a player at the highest level for 21 years… over-seeing the Russian response/actions to many global and state events. He doesn’t portray the air of anything other than cold, calculating, intelligent and fearless. It’s gonna be quite a trial for our leaders. I suspect there will be many cyber-attacks and reprisals for any sanctions, on top of any actual physical conflict.
     
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  7. sprintdave

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    Assassinate the bastard. Job done.
     
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  8. Octoberon

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    Assassination didn't turn out too well in 1914.
     
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  9. DCS900

    DCS900 Careful, man! There’s a beverage here!

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    Putin doesn’t seem adverse to the idea though… Boris Nemtsov 2015
     
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  10. Octoberon

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    He's probably quite adverse to being the target. :) I don't suppose Russia's allies would be best pleased, either. That could all end very badly...
     
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  11. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Time to call 007
     
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  12. Vulpes

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  13. Bikerman

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    Well not good news indeed, but it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that this HItler Mk2 is doing exactly what Hitler Mk1 did before WW2 started.
    For years now he's been building up his armed forces, and our response has been to decimate the Royal Navy, the Royal Air Force and the British Army to very dangerous levels, and the only reason that ,as far as I can see, is that for years now all of Europe, with a few exceptions have lived under the protective umbrella of the American Forces without contributing to their own defence. It can't be right to expect the American taxpayer to fund Europe's security, while you have lots of countries that don't even get close to the 2% GDP that was agreed by all NATO countries. But not to worry, the EU wants to form an EU Army, Really, who's going to fund that then. They don't even fund NATO so where's the money coming from for that idea then ?.
    Oh look there's a pie in the sky.
    Unfortunately Ukraine is on its own, and Putin knows it.
    I'd like to see all the Ban the bomb lot march on Moscow, but no they'll just call on our government to get rid of our Nucular deterant, as that will prove that we have no I'll intentions towards Mother Russia. Then Russia will get rid of theirs, of course they will. Ukraine did have Nuclear weapons, but they gave them up. The best deterrent against any agresor mutually assured destruction.
    I've asked a question in discussion with these people before. And the question is this.
    " Would Japan have attacked Pearl Harbour if they knew what was going to hit them in Nagasaki and Hiroshima ? They never came back with an answer.
     
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  14. Erling

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    I certainly hope that the UK rolls back the golden visa scheme and starts seizing properties around Eaton Square/Belgravia. Do something that hurts.
     
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  15. Wessa

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    Yes very worrying times. Been listening to the debate in the commons and it is good to see the cross party support for the sanctions Boris has announced. But it is important that the pressure is maintained and if need be military support given to stop this mad b@stard.
     
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  18. beerkat

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    It's a shame we don't have any Russian or Ukrainian members on this forum. I'm always interested to hear what the ordinary people think and what sort of angle they're being given by their governments.
     
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  19. PatW

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    Adolphs playbook exactly! Apparently his popularity is waining back home and a bit of land grab is a welcome distraction, as usual the UN /NATO are about as much use as a wet fucking blanket in a forest fire, I'm not one for advocating violence but we should park a fuck load of NATO ordinance around Ukraine and say "go on, I fucking dare you"
     
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  20. Bikerman

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    We have had a few Russian members, but they're not around anymore. I can't remember their names mind.
     
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