675 Bike not as ordered.

Discussion in 'Street Triple' started by Noddy220, Jun 2, 2016.

  1. Noddy220

    Noddy220 New Member

    Jun 2, 2016
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    Hi All.
    For many many years I was on the dark side the the motorbike planet owning various Japanese sports bikes.
    I saw sense this year and bought British. (Although Ive since found out that the bike was assembled in Taiwan). Ive invested my hard earned cash on a brand new spanking Street Triple.
    To cut a very long story short, with accessories I spent over £9,000 on the bike. I ordered the black ABS version. Although I considered the R and the RX versions of the bike I couldn't bring myself to have any red on it. (Quote football etc) Also my personal point of view is that the red just looks out of character on the bike.
    Anyway, the bike I ordered wasn't the bike that was delivered. It has the red pinstriped wheels and also the front brake calipers which should have been gold were in fact black. I thought that the gold was a nice touch and complimented the forks and the front part of the exhaust. The bike I ordered (Black wheels and gold callipers) is still advertised on their website and this is the bike that I ordered.
    Ive challenged this with Triumph and so far they have been dismissive of my claims. Ive sent the complaint to Paul Lilly the General Manager of Triumph to see if he can change the decision of the After-sales manager who's given a few excuses as to why he won't assist none of which seems to have any legal basis other than he's being obstructive and very uncustomer friendly.
    Triumph have obviously breached parts of various Trading Standards legislation.
    What else can I do other than send the bike back within the 14 day acceptance period.
    By the way Ive ridden the bike and irrespective of the colour its ace.
    Some may think Im being a bit petty but I just want the bike I ordered.
    Has anyone any more advice as to what I can do.
    Thanks

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  2. TEZ 217

    TEZ 217 Crème de la Crème

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    As you state -
    Triumph have obviously breached parts of various Trading Standards legislation.
    Therefore I would seek trading standards help, they will advise wether your able to reject the bike
    and for what reasons, but be quick there is a timescale !!!
     
  3. RoadSprocket

    RoadSprocket Active Member

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    Did you sign any paperwork when ordering, that specified colours? What excuses did you get when the bike was delivered?
     
  4. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Your not being petty at all! Social media is the way to go for complaints! I have issues with a claim my sons are making on travel insurance couldn't get through on phone or response on email, opened up a Twitter account posted on their Twitter account someone responded in 2 mins, not resolved but at least I'm talking to someone! They don't like these things being piblic
     
  5. Rooster

    Rooster Grumpy Member
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    What you should do now is to write to the dealer concerned and state that as the bike is not what you ordered and that you pointed this out as soon as you went to collect it, you are rejecting the vehicle as is your legal right under section 35 of the Sale of goods act:

    (2)Where goods are delivered to the buyer, and he has not previously examined them, he is not deemed to have accepted them under subsection (1) above until he has had a reasonable opportunity of examining them for the purpose—

    (a)of ascertaining whether they are in conformity with the contract
    ,

    What are you entitled to?
    If the goods do not conform to the contract, in other words are not of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose or as described, you are legally entitled to one of the following remedies:

    A FULL REFUND
    You are legally entitled to a full refund if you have not yet 'accepted' the goods. Acceptance takes place when:

    •you inform the trader that you have accepted the goods
    •you use the goods in a way which is 'inconsistent with the trader's ownership'. For example, if you have altered the goods in any way or customised them then you may have accepted them. For example taking up the hem on a pair of trousers
    •You keep the goods for longer than a reasonable time without telling the trader that you have rejected them. You are entitled to a reasonable opportunity to examine the goods and this should take place within a reasonable time. The law does not give an explanation of what is 'reasonable time' and ultimately a court would make a decision based on the facts of each case. You should, therefore, contact the trader as soon as you find the fault as a delay may mean you lose your right to a refund.
     
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  6. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    My only concern is this, whilst you can say I want one like that in a picture, the picture does not usually form part of the legal contract. So if the precise specification was not stipulated in the contract signed, the law might not support the plaintiffs complaint.
     
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  7. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Sadly, I think biglad may be absolutely right with this.
     
  8. RoadSprocket

    RoadSprocket Active Member

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    (It's why I asked about paperwork when purchasing) did you also sign anything apart from the delivery document to say you've taken receipt? As there may be something about discrepancies somewhere. I doubt they'll refuse to do anything if they haven't got a leg to stand on.
     
  9. H.O.

    H.O. Noble Member

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    Oh dear, by riding it I think that could be interpreted in law as accepting it.
    If you had argued and left it with no miles on the clock you probably would have had a case, I would still argue for the the case to have the brake caliper and wheels replaced, but I cant see them changing the whole bike!
    Probably berried in the small print somewhere that individual parts can be substituted with-out notice and pictures or display models are a guide only.
    It will have a V5 in your name so its difficult for Triumph to take it back and use/sell it as a demonstrator, but not impossible to change the 'wrong' parts as I see it.
     
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  10. Tigcraft

    Tigcraft Unheard of Member

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    Look at it if it were a pair of shoes, you try them on in a shop or at home-ok, you wear them on the street - a no no as they now show immediate wear. They should honour if on paper there was a written request just replace the items you never agreed to even though you've used the bike.
     
  11. H.O.

    H.O. Noble Member

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    Thinking about this more, it would be in your interest to be as polite and diplomatic as possible BUT FIRM and go for the parts to be changed at possibly the first service, as it would be very difficult for Triumph, as I said, the V5 is in your name but so is the insurance and road tax, so it would cost you time and money if the bike was to be changed. (which I'm 99% sure it wont!).
    Lets face it, those components would not cost Triumph much any-way, a set of wheels swapping the tyres/disc's and a brake caliper.
    Just my opinion though................
     
  12. Noddy220

    Noddy220 New Member

    Jun 2, 2016
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    Hi Everyone
    Sorry for the late reply Ive been at work all day but heres the update.
    As stated I sent a lengthy email to the General Manager of Triumph UK & Ireland, Paul Lilly stating what Ive said above, that the bike represented in the photographs on the Triumph website is not the bike that I took possession of due to the cosmetic differences in the callipers and the wheels. Prior to this I had been in touch with Trading Standards who had a look at my case and indeed have said that Triumph are in breach of various parts of legislation in regards sales of good act etc etc.
    In any case this morning I received an email to say that my email had been passed to Mr Lilly for his consideration.
    To be fair I didn't expect any sort of quick response although I did indicate that as I was within my 14 day acceptance period I could reject the bike but this would not be my preferred method to resolve these issues. All I wanted was the bike that I ordered and for the parts which are different to be changed.
    This evening I received a call from my dealer, Darren at A1 Moto York to say that after I had sent the email he had received a call from Triumph saying that they are sending him some gold coloured callipers and wheels for me. RESULT.
    Im getting these items changed when I take the bike in for its 500 mile service.
    Its amazing that initially they say wont do anything to help but then all of a sudden they then say they will and resolve all the issues straight away. Unbelievable really. The well worded email to the boss obviously worked.
    Thanks for all your help and advice guys, very much appreciated.
    I have got some questions in regards the dash as I can't get it to display what I want but these questions will wait for another time.
    Regards
    Steve
     
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  13. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    Good news.
    They get so use to running a business that they sometimes forget what gets you through the door,- the dream.
     
  14. 711jrp

    711jrp Active Member

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    That's great news.
     
  15. TEZ 217

    TEZ 217 Crème de la Crème

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    well done, great result for all concerned happy days :cool::cool:
     
  16. H.O.

    H.O. Noble Member

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    Great news, now ride and enjoy!
     
  17. H.O.

    H.O. Noble Member

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    Always works to go to the top, I did it with Carpetright, such a balls-up on a hall-stairs & landing carpet, we had bunches of flowers sent round, choc's, discounted carpet and a new on fitted, I 'spose they have to try it on in the first place.
     
  18. Tigcraft

    Tigcraft Unheard of Member

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    Brill,it's going the right way!
     
  19. Rocker

    Rocker Elite Member

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    Well done Noddy just goes to show don't put up with bad service and use the law that's what it's for:) Triumph also tried to fob me off:mad: but in the end replaced the bike!
     
  20. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Good news - well done for persevering with it.
     
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