I’m in NC. It’s a combo state, cities having been the typical covidiot dictatorships, but outside the cities nobody gives a fuck anymore. In fact they never really did once the initial scare tactics revealed themselves. And even in the cities people are calling a lot of bullshit these days.
I personally respect your right to not take the vaccine, but don’t base your decision on spurious guff… take care dude. quotation tennis… https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport-idUSL1N2SK160 https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/c0ce4b51?hs_amp=true https://www.factcheck.org/2021/12/s...linking-athletes-injuries-deaths-to-vaccines/
If you have antibodies to fight the virus when it enters your body via the respiritory system then you will either be infectious for less time, or not at all. The result is the R number goes down and the virus loses its foothold in the population.
Is there any direct evidence for that? I haven't heard anything about forced vaccinations to date. If anywhere was going to do that it would be North Korea.
That has nothing to do with Duckduckgo and everything to do with Google knowing who you are and tailoring its results. Search engine optimisation (SEO) has long been a thing of the internet as people try to push their pages further up the rankings. Google has always been highly secretive of their algorithms, and they change over time. It's a cat-and-mouse game. You're looking for the devil but you're just seeing business at work. Although I'll admit it's hard to distinguish one from the other sometimes.
So with that thought in mind. If someone had COVID and recovered they have the antibodies, so why would they need a vaccine?
That's not evidence. Restricting you from being in places infecting others is not the same as mandating you to get vaccinated. Trying to compel people to get vaccinated is understandable. People are dying from this. What do you expect? If you are unvaccinated and can't prove you're virus-free then precautions restricting your access to sensitive areas like hospitals and care homes is just common sense. I presume no one who doesn't want to be vaccinated actually wants to be responsible for infecting vunerable people?
Our current administration is currently stuck in a legal battle because they had the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) set a new standard that all federal contractors have to get the jab or be placed on unpaid leave until they do. The unpaid leave would negate any and all unemployment benefits but eventually they would be fired completely. There are no religious exemptions and limited medical exemptions. So basically the government is holding a persons livelihood over their head to force them to comply. If this passes it is either take the jab or your family starves.
A Kings College London study that I (and millions others) have been participating in since March 2020 has shown that prior infection plus vaccination provides much greater protection for that person than either those purely vaccinated or who are unvaccinated but have previously been infected have. It is worth noting that a fifth of those who have been infected do not seem to produce any detectable protective antibodies afterwards though. For what it is worth, I do respect a person's right to bodily autonomy and am very uneasy about the prospect of forcing people to undergo any form of procedure. I do think that, with the decision to not have a vaccine, there has to come an acceptance of any restrictions this might place upon the individual though.
But if a vaccinated person can still contract COVID and still transmit COVID shouldn't they also have to prove they are COVID free to enter an establishment?
If you're had Covid you will have antibodies. BUT depending on the level of infection you may not have them at a high level and reinfection is increasingly possible over time. The vaccine will boost your immune system. Some recent research (remember, research is ongoing with this pandemic with a gread deal already learned but still more to understand) suggests mRNA vaccines can result in very high levels of antibodies, which is obviosuly a good thing, and may also offer a degree of protection against future variants
No. You're not considering the maths behind pandemic infection models. The number of vaccinated people with the virus will be far lower. Even so, I wouldn't argue against testing in some circumstances where the risk could be very high, perhaps those working in operating theatres. But that's just a thought of mine. I'd be led by the evidence.
Shouldn't it be testing required for all public settings? It only takes 1 infected person in a room to infect the rest. So if that person happens to be vaccinated shouldn't they still have been required to test before entering the room? It seems to me if the unvaxed have to test before entering a room and an outbreak happens, the only people to blame would be the vaccinated. How do you explain the recent cruise ships of fully vaccinated crews and guests that had outbreaks? Or the US Navy ship at going to Gitmo that had a fully vaxed crew and still had an outbreak onboard? Guess testing would have been a good thing in those cases.
Wrong. They’ve been trying for the most part in vain to self-righteously “protect the population” for nearly 2 years now and get consistently smacked down in the courts, because due process reveals their bullshit agenda. So they’re going pretty much nowhere.
So once again, if the vaxed can still contract COVID and still spread it, why does it matter who is vaxed or not? The vaxed are protected and the unvaxed are taking their own chances, so there shouldn't be an issue. Or people have zero faith that their vaccine works.
Take measles as an example, which is more transmissable than Covid. People who are fully vaccinated against measles are about 97% protected. No one thinks twice about that disease, because it's at such a low level in the population the risk is negligible. That's the difference in your scenario.
So how is it possible for COVID to spread though a ship of fully vaccinated people? The population of infected onboard should have been near zero.
