Would You Have The Corvid Vaccine Tomorrow If Offered?

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  1. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    #781 Hubaxe, Jan 6, 2022
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    correlation without any proof, study, or real knowledge, and make up everything into conspiracy theory.
    That's exactly what you do on every subject there. Once you have a contradiction, you switch to another of your "truth" (just look above).
    Simplistic correlation, discutable source, etc.
    Actually there, around 8 on 10 dying from covid are people minded like you, and it's not enjoyable, just sad.
    Good luck.
     
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  2. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Similar system in France.
     
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  3. tcbandituk

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    Thinking globally (rather than just about America), do you think the rest of the world is just going along with this covid thing and having lockdowns/creating their own unnecessary vaccines etc to help the 'Big Pharma' American companies make a profit then?
     
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  4. Pegscraper

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  5. Octoberon

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    Yeah, bloody people coming over here, playing on our tennis courts...
     
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  6. MARKYMARKTHREE

    MARKYMARKTHREE Senior Member

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    #786 MARKYMARKTHREE, Jan 6, 2022
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    Sadly i believe come Monday, money will talk, the back door will open and he will be out and about. Meanwhile i hope he enjoys his time in a quarantine hotel. :mask:
     
  7. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Crème de la Crème

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    Novax Djokovic :mask::)
     
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  8. Ducatitotriumph

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    Excellent!
     
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  9. Greywolf55

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    #789 Greywolf55, Jan 6, 2022
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    Got my booster yesterday , So far following the guidelines I've avoided the virus so far. I'm pushing 67, so I'd prefer not to be a victim when it's avoidable
     
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  10. MARKYMARKTHREE

    MARKYMARKTHREE Senior Member

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    Good lad and well done for starting page 44. The big 50 aint far away.:joy:
     
  11. Traveller

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    Big Pharma, yes, but not all of Big Pharma is American so it is a global profit for the vaccinate producers.
     
  12. Octoberon

    Octoberon Crème de la Crème

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    That's the same Big Pharma that makes a profit on all the drugs and medicines you'll be taking in your life. Often recommended or prescribed by a doctor. I'm not sure what you're objecting to here. They produce something that is independently shown to work, they charge for it (mostly) and people use it.

    I'm not saying they're above reproach. I do believe the industry requires a effective oversight and regulation.
     
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  13. Vulpes

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    Got my booster jab today. :)
     
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  14. Octoberon

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    #794 Octoberon, Jan 6, 2022
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    That's it then. You're done for. :joy:
     
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  15. tcbandituk

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    So it's a conspiracy by Big Pharma in all the major countries in the world*?
    That argument isn't credible just using common sense let alone facts...!

    *Pinky and the Brain would be so jealous :D
     
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  16. Octoberon

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    Are you thinking what I'm thinking...?

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  17. DCS900

    DCS900 Careful, man! There’s a beverage here!

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    In response to @Traveller’s concerns...


    The key point from that article is "Medications, drugs and stimulants may also carry considerable risk of SCA when exercising."
    But FIFA have stated since that article was released that they are unaware of a rise in cases of SCA and Covid vaccination is not linked to the ones that have happened.

    Another odd point.
    https://archive.ph/H8kw7
    It seems an odd point, yes... but reading the article, it remains an odd point with no obvious single factor... “It is likely to be due to a multitude of factors: people being sedentary with lockdown; stress; people ignoring symptoms because they do not want to present at hospital. There are probably 5 to 10 causes, all linked.” There is no mention or implication of vaccine as a potentially fatal factor. A small area of Scotland would not be the only affected area given the distribution of the vaccine.

    And some questions need to be answered. I would include all mRNA vaccines in the Pfizer group since they are all from the same basic science.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
    "After mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), especially in male adolescents and young adults"

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/myocarditis.html
    "Since April 2021, increased cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported in the United States after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna), particularly in adolescents and young adults. "

    Aren't most football players fairly young or are there a bunch of 50 and 60 year old men still playing?

    I read these articles, they do provide a medical caution but also say most patients responded well to medicine and rest, and felt quickly better. The article goes on to say... “ CDC continues to recommend that everyone ages 5 years and older get vaccinated for Covid-19. The known risks of COVID-19 illness and its related, possibly severe, complications such as long-term health problems, hospitalisation and even death, far outweigh the potential risks of having a rare adverse reaction to vaccination, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis.”
    I suspect you will still have a degree of scepticism/paranoia, so I checked out the MRHA figures relating to your concern and cardiac issues accounted for are a 1 in 10,000 (vary rare) risk.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...fessionals-on-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

    In the below study, the discussion states...
    “Two distinct self-limited syndromes, myocarditis and pericarditis, were observed after COVID-19 vaccination. Myocarditis developed rapidly in younger patients, mostly after the second vaccination. Pericarditis affected older patients later, after either the first or second dose.
    Some vaccines are associated with myocarditis, including mRNA vaccines, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently reported a possible association between COVID-19 mRNA vaccines and myocarditis, primarily in younger male individuals within a few days after the second vaccination, at an incidence of about 4.8 cases per 1 million. This study shows a similar pattern, although at higher incidence, suggesting vaccine adverse event underreporting. Additionally, pericarditis may be more common than myocarditis among older patients.
    Study limitations include cases missed in outside care settings and missed diagnoses of myocarditis or pericarditis (which would underestimate the incidence), as well as inaccurate EMR vaccination information. Temporal association does not prove causation, although the short span between vaccination and myocarditis onset and the elevated incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in the study hospitals lend support to a possible relationship.”


    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900

    As the death rate (not morbidity) rates for people catching Covid differ in which country you live I thought I’d pop this up... USA has a case fatality rate of 1.4%, the UK 1.1%... both are significantly higher than the recorded cardiac issues with the vaccine (which are usually none fatal).

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality


    I hope that helps with your decisions, it’s not meant to be sarcastic, just informing... best of luck.
    I’ll leave it there now.
     
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  18. Traveller

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    I do see the Veterans Affairs doctor twice a year because I have to. I will do X-rays, MRIs, physical therapy, ect. when needed but refuse all drugs or medication. I truly believe that most things have a natural cure.
     
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  19. Traveller

    Traveller Active Member

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    We can't even sue a vaccine manufacturer if the vaccine kills us. There is no accountability.
     
  20. Traveller

    Traveller Active Member

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    So you are saying they don't make a huge profit and just do it for the love of humanity? Keep on thinking that.
     
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