Lockdown For Us In The Netherlands Again

My good thoughts are with all of you.

 

After tomorrow's headlines Boris might be looking for another job. so lockdown might not happen here.

 

That ship has sailed dude...

 

Not going to happen quickly enough. The Tory big guns circling him will wait a while for their moment I suspect. It's not like they'll put the country and its needs first or anything. That leaves us stuck in the circus, drifting along effectively ungoverned, for some time to come.

 

The Boris debacle (seriously, how can anyone not have seen it coming from day one?) will rumble on for a while. Reaction to the virus will be swifter.

 

Best wishes - at least as you say you've got your Christmas food and I hope that the new job's not disrupted too much.

 

Rock and a hard place. Lockdown and people will go ape, don’t lockdown and people go ape….
It is an impossible situation no matter who is in government.

 

Sorry but I’m getting more sceptical by the week now it’s just very suspicious,the leash was just starting to get loose and now the new strain has put it all back,what was the point of double jabbing if then you are told to isolate as you are not much better off than non jabbed,yes I’ve had my 2 jabs and still had to isolate as my wife and son got omicron but I didn’t despite testing every day and I’m same house ODD,the only advantage I can see is you don’t get unwell enough to need hospital treatment,you can still pass it on and get it BUT if the symptoms are less severe WHY the massive panic,it’s as if those in power want you to be terrified and under control we can’t go on every time another variant comes along just SHUTTING the country down.

 

I agree that we cannot keep locking down every time a new variant comes along, however until there is more information available on omicron it is prudent to proceed with caution. For me it is unlikely that there will be any extension of rules until after Christmas, as the Government will not want to cancel it again. It is likely that things will change in the New Year, how severe is the question.

 

It’s too global to be any surreptitious Government control. Israel has just shut down travel to America… they wouldn’t do that unless they really felt they had to!
The frustration and paranoia is palpable, but I honestly think governments are just trying to do their best in their given circumstances… and any advice/restriction given or enforced is purely mitigation measures.

https://www.reuters.com/world/israe...icron-concerns-official-statement-2021-12-20/

 

Part of the point of vaccination programmes is to minimise or eliminate the societal effects and spread of a particular diease, not necessarily to simply try to eliminate or eradicate the disease.

I'm old enough to remember as a child commonly seeing the effects of poliomyelitis and tubercolosis. Most on here are probably young enough to realise that these once common IN THIS COUNTRY diseases are, to all practical intents and purposes, eradicated or managed.

If you'd been living in the 1940's or 1950's you would probably have encountered many, many people who objected to the vaccination programmes that have virtually removed these (and other) diseases from almost all major, developed countries.

I think the idea is to shut down the disease, not the country.

 

Ooh, hang on ,you're saved! Late safety car..........









I'll get my coat

 

It worked so well the first time...

 

Did the actions mitigate or aggravate? Did they change things at all? What condition would the world be in if no countries had taken any actions… better, worse or the same? And what consistent metrics should be used to measure this simplistic statement…

 

This…

 

…is social media demonstrating confirmation bias rather well.

 

…It's certainly been demonstrating cognitive dissonance here going on 2 pages now.

 

Of course there is @Golgotha... science says we should reduce risk by using a combination of protective measures... money says “fuck it, we’ll just mop up afterwards!” People seem to forget that this country’s initial stance was herd immunity (do nowt), until that started to bite and then they were chasing their tails. The PM caught it and nearly died, saved by the NHS... though I suspect he soon forgot about that.
In the summer, when people on furlough were stay-cationing in their thousands in the unusually warm weather, the mitigating factors were an annoyance but easily stuck to... now, with no government handout, grey pissy weather, the same factors are an impossible insult to personal liberty.
So the general public keep undergoing high pressure influences from public health and money... both highly important in society... there’s your cognitive dissonance!