Corona Virus

Cut their nose off to spite their face........... and the cynic in me thinks there could be some political interest in the EU leadship on this subject.

 

I hate and detest the EU. They are a bunch of complete amateurish bureaucratic idiots who couldn’t organize a piss up in a brewery, my cat Stan could’ve done a better job of the vaccine rollouts.

 

Oh come on @BonnieCat just say what you mean about the useless idiots.....

 

Even though favorable, I hope your cat, Stan, doesn't know that you compared him to a bunch of complete amateurish bureaucratic idiots, @BonnieCat! And I have to say that your description of the EU sounds an awful lot like our Arizona state government, I'm afraid. Perhaps they are the same bunch--or might as well be.

 

In the UK, 7 people have died from blood clots out of the 18 million who have had the Astrazeneca vaccine.
The chances of getting a blood clot if you contract Covid are 30%.
The EU needs to do some basic maths!

 

It is political, either way they will try to blame it on the Brits;
First we wouldn't let them have it,
Now its a killer.
Nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit!!

 

The pill can also cause clots, but that’s not been banned

 

I’ve had both jabs now and I’m happy to report I’m not dead.

 

It probably prevents a few from being born though

 

The EU also need to understand that correlation is not causation.
They also seem to have problems understanding what their own drug agencies are saying - that there is not yet any evidence that the vaccine has caused any clots.
Far better to ban it and blame the "British Vaccine" for perceived problems while trying to prevent it's export at the same time.

 

The EU also need to understand that correlation is not causation.
They also seem to have problems understanding what their own drug agencies are saying - that there is not yet any evidence that the vaccine has caused any clots.
Far better to ban it and blame the "British Vaccine" for perceived problems while trying to prevent it's export at the same time.

 

Interesting article from the Netherlands.

Thrombosis experts have reacted furiously to the government’s decision to again stop using the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine because of a possible risk of developing blood clots, saying they have not been consulted. The decision, they argue, has been taken on the basis of incomplete information and without any input from experts in the disease. ‘If you ignore the experts, you are verging on arrogance,’ professor Hugo ten Cate told the Volkskrant. ‘I am becoming increasingly angry about how this has happened.’ ‘All my colleagues are baffled,’ thrombosis expert Saskia Middeldorp told broadcaster NOS. ‘It is as if the people who decide this don’t realize the implications for our vaccination programme.’ The health ministry said on Friday it is again suspending use of the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine following reports of serious thrombosis-related side effects pending a further review. The decision led the 25 regional health boards to say they would stop administering the vaccine altogether to stop wastage. Only 700 appointments have been planned in for the over-60s in the coming days, split between the 70 to 80 vaccination locations. The news is yet another blow for the Netherlands vaccination strategy, which only started in January and has been beset by problems since then.

Side effects:-
The decision to again halt the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine follows a report by side effects monitoring group Lareb on Friday, which said that one Dutch woman has died after being given the jab although no link has yet been shown with her symptoms. In total, Lareb has had five reports of thrombosis seven to 10 days after the AstraZeneca injection, all involving women aged 25 to 65. Some 400,000 people were given the AstraZeneca vaccine during the period the problems were reported. Similar reports have been made elsewhere in Europe, and European scientists suggest the vaccine could result in a severe reaction by the immune system.

Emotion:-
The decision to stop using the vaccine must be a political one, specialist Frits Rosendaal told the VK. Vascular medicine specialist Pieter Willem Kamphuisen said the move had been based on emotion, rather than science. ‘It is such a complex picture,’ he said. ‘You need experts to be able to judge what has happened. You first have to analyse the information and then draw conclusions.’ The European Medicines Agency is due to give its position on Wednesday. ‘And if it gives the green light, how are doctors going to explain that the vaccine is safe after all?’ Kamphuisen said. The Netherlands also stopped using the vaccine for a period last month when there were earlier concerns about thrombosis, but started using it again when the European Medicines Agency said the vaccine is both safe and effective.

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I'm probably not far off when I say millions of people in the UK have had the AZ jab and as a result I would guess that already hundreds of lives have been saved. What happened to common sense ?

 

Far higher ? Is that the best you can do ?
I would have expected the exact figures from you Ade.

 

No common sense has been applied Andy. Complete tossers the lot of them

 

Well, as a result of someone bailing out I will get my first AZ jab tomorrow. Quite happy to go and get it.

 

Had my jab today. Not growing any 3rd ears as yet...

 

Look at any medicine in your cabinet, prescription or not and it will come with a list of possible side effects. How come we are hearing nothing about the other vaccine variants, are they completely side effect free?

 

Just been catching up on this thread......

In the words of Julian Ryder - "could these two things possibly be connected?"
Just wondering.....
Edit: (however - not too many 65 year olds on the pill I'm guessing)

 

Just another example of the woke mentality creeping in if you ask me....minorities rule.

Chances of getting the virus vs getting a blood clot!