Edit** Had the opportunity to do a remote tuning session with Dave Moss yesterday (highly recommend). Worth every penny. Still testing but this is where the bike sits as of today: 2020 Speed Triple RS - 700 miles on the odo Rider weight: 205 Lbs without gear Forks: Sag - Static 17mm//Rider30mm, Preload 11.5 turns out, Comp 24 clicks out, Reb 9 clicks out Shock: Sag - Static 10mm//Rider 32mm , Preload 2 threads showing, Comp 18 clicks out, Reb 12 clicks out Any notes about riding pace / environment: Tires - stock supercorsa's at 38psi front and rear. So with this current set up, it feels like a completely new motorcycle. Suspension feels plush and yet has good feedback (like what you would expect ohlins to feel like) soaks up bumps very well and no longer harsh on rough roads. Initial turn in feels much better, no longer feels like I'm fighting the front end to get it to turn. Still needs some fine tuning, but miles and miles ahead of where I had everything set up before / the stock set up. -------------------------- Original post: Did a search and didn't see one anywhere. Was either looking for a list to add to or start one. List would pretty much be the following: Year / Model / Trim Rider weight (with or without gear depending on how you measure) Forks: Sag (Static and Rider) , Preload, Compression, Rebound settings Shock: Sag (Static and Rider), Preload, Compression, Rebound settings Any notes about riding pace / environment Thoughts? Would anyone find this useful?
My 2019 ST RS is so bloody hard I'm thinking of taking it to a specialist for set-up in the spring. In comparison my Monster 1200R is just perfect on the standard settings. The same roads are completely different on each bike. Yes, useful, might be a start but its somewhat a personnel thing, feel.
I put mine on the comfort settings and imho, it's still rock hard for me. Can really jolt on our bloody roads and sometimes I head home as i've had enough of it.
Agreed that the fine tuning stages are entirely personal feel. Oddly enough compared to my v4 tuono the ST RS feels quite plush. I'm still running in the motor so I haven't fully ridden it like intended yet. Once I get some more miles on it I'll edit the original thread with some numbers. Off the top of my head, if your sag is where you need it to be and you still have some travel left in the forks and shock, softening up the compression might help it feel a little less rough over the bumps.
I would recommend taking your machine to a specialist for the suspension set up, there are many reasons for this, you have to be sat on the machine for some adjustments, and unless you have a friend that you are happy with taking accurate measurement's then leave well alone, you can adjust a lot yourself, however to get full benefit you can't do it completely single handed as not much is generic. There is a well established suspension business near my home village, he only charged me £80 for the full set up, and further tweaks once I tested it on the road. I appreciate you are based in California, however there are good people near you that may well complete the work at a reasonable cost. Ride safe all.
I wholeheartedly agree that there are a multitude of credible shops that can set up suspension. Dave Moss is located somewhat close to me and is an absolute wizard. That said, I've always found it enjoyable to adjust it myself and see how close I can get it. As far as setting sag and having to have a second body there to measure for you, a good way around this is the Motool Slacker. Used one for a while now and have nothing but good things to say about it.
unfortunately the ohlins forks have a lot of compression damping as standard. the adjuster is almost fully out as delivered from the factory at 19 clicks out. i put softer springs in mine but a lot of the harshness is still there due to the damping. you can get it really plush over bumps and have the adjuster somewhere in the middle of its range but it reguires the damping shims inside the forks to be set up. i have a softer spring in the back and find it ok just with a tweak of the adjusters. once its done the bike feels so much better on uk's poor roads.
about 14 stone without riding gear. i have 8.5 springs in the forks and a 90 spring in the rear. i tend to ride fast but smooth
went down 10% on standard rate based on how it felt riding it and how much travel was used up on the front during normal riding. i used to have a 2012 r which i put the same springs in but didnt alter the valving on those.
have to say that as i get older i am less tolerant of bumping and jolting. i can ride it quicker and more enjoyably on bumpy roads because you dont have to back off because of the bumps. it is so much a better bike for me now. heaven knows why they made it so hard. its a roadster not a trackster.
Had some time to get some numbers together after a bit of a ride today. Edited my first post with what I've found so far.
I found it the same. Rock hard on most surfaces. I went to Aplha Suspension and had it set up and now it’s just about perfect. And I’m glad I did as I was really starting to fall out with the bike. I’m 16st without gear on and the setup now is everything backed off. As others have said on here, I was also advised to think about changing the fork shims to get it closer to how I want it.
Had the opportunity to do a remote tuning session with Dave Moss last night. Suspension feels a ton better. Updated first post with current adjustment numbers and ride notes.
Dave’s the man, and you are a lucky man. Wish I lived near Dave. I’ve watched countless Dave Moss tuning videos, and have my bike pretty close to where it should be. It’s not really that complicated one you have a basic understanding of what the adjusters do and how riding forces affect the suspension. I’m at about 200 lbs with gear and found the stock spring on the rear shock is borderline too stiff. I have it wound all the way out and just barely have enough rider sag. Anyone under 200 lbs with gear should have a lighter spring installed. They will find their suspension to be much more compliant, with far better performance. My sag front and rear is between 25 - 30 mm. I use to have my suspension on the stiff side for aggressive riding, but have dialled it back a little and like the compromise.
I actually do live fairly close but the cool thing is that it was a remote tuning session. So it was pretty much just a video call where I did the work and he walked me through it while looking at the bikes behavior on screen. So you could actually set up a tuning session with him pretty much anywhere. Also yes, Dave is an absolute wizard.