help with tyres

Discussion in 'Speed Triple' started by Dougie D, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    when i got my bike the dealer put a new supercorsa on the front but i see the rear will be needing replaced soon i really dont want to put the same on the back again as the mileage you get out of them for road use is terrible. does anyone know if i'd be ok putting an angel gt (or similar) on the back and keep the supercorsa on the front untill i need to replace it (i dont want to splash out on a set if i dont have to)the other option is to replace both and try and sell the front as it's brand new
     
  2. 711jrp

    711jrp Active Member

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    That's a bit of a nono to be honest, it can be ok but sometimes it's not as the profile shape varies manufacturer to manufacturer.
     
  3. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    As a biker the only thing between you and oblivion is your tyres - don't skimp on them.
     
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  4. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Agree with thebiglad - not worth it to try and save a few quid.
     
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  5. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    I'm for saving a few quid - as others will testify - where possible but not on tyres.

    Not the same vehicle I know, but a few years I bought a set of 4 Continentals for my Disco, had them fitted and within days they had tried to kill me twice. The second time doing a full 180° spin in the road with the back end on the edge of a ravine 60ft deep.:eek::eek::confused: The car was off the road and new tyres were ordered immediately.

    Your life is worth more than the price of a couple of tyres isn't it?
     
  6. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    yeah i think when it comes to replace the rear (which will be soon as it's almost down to the wear bars) i will put sport touring tyres on front and rear.
    i know there are guys who like putting on a sport Tyre on the front and and a sport touring Tyre on the rear,i guessing that would probably mean they would replace both tyres at the same time instead of putting a new rear and keeping a half worn front
     
  7. MrOrange

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    Normally, I would say yes, and I have run different manufacturers as an overlap, but I really wouldn't mix a sports touring Angel GT (which is an awesome tyre, totally recommend, ran them on my gixxer) and a full sports tyre like the supercorsa.

    Go get a pair of Angel GT's and sell your supercorsa, or wrap it up, stick it under your bed and put it back on for a track day !!!!

    I used to take my Angels's off and put a pair of Michelin Pilot Powers for track days, did this a couple of times. The difference between the two tyres was amazing. Riding them back to back really highlighted the difference. On a dry clean road / track, the Pilot's were sticky as hell and could take real liberties with the front end, but on a cold greasy damp day, they were crap, whereas the Angel's were just good all the time, not as grippy in the dry but then again didn't wear out after 2000 miles.

    So I would be tempted to mix brands for an overlap, but I would never mix a grippy supersport tyre with a sport touring tyre.

    Go get a pair of Angel GT's, compared to the part worn Bridgestones I took off, they were a revelation. Wish I could get them for the America !!! LoL
     
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  8. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    Hi Dougie, as you've got a new supercorsa on the front may be change the rear to the same pretty soon, then with a bit of luck they'll both wear out together and can change the pair to whatever you decide on. The super's are brilliant tyres when both in good nik, but I agree they wear very quickly, haven't been in the wet yet so can't comment but I doubt they're too clever. Mine are still the OE's as fitted on the R with about 1,500 miles on now, taken in plenty of bendy roads down here :D but just starting to see a bit of a flat spot (can't feel it yet), the dealer did warn me they weren't going to last long :(. I'm considering the Metzeler Sportec M7RR's, not tried them yet obviously, but blurb on their site makes them sound a good compromise being a sport orientated profile but with a bit more mileage and wet grip for if I get caught out (they're getting good reviews too). I've used their Roadtec Z8's on the Multistrada and Sprint1050 in the past and rate them highly. The M7RR's are obviously not going to give the milage of the Z8's but I'm hoping for something a bit better than the Pirelli's....time will tell.
     
  9. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    if i could be guaranteed good weather all the time i would probably get a supercorsa on the rear like you say then replace with sports touring Tyres when the time comes, but i wouldn't have any confidence in them if conditions were a bit iffy..i was thinking about the Michelin pr4 but i think the Angel gt might suit the bike better, although maybe not get quite as much mileage as i would with the pr4 i should still get about 4/5k on them..I'll check out reviews on the Metzelers too though
     
  10. Yaya rider

    Yaya rider Well-Known Member

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    I stuck PR3s on my CBR, love em! So confidence inspiring even in the wet, and I managed to pick them up at quite a discount compared the the PR4's. The majority of my CBR forum go for the PR3's over the 4.
     
  11. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    i had the pr3s on my vfr and yeah they were really good in the wet,i had the angels on my hypermotard both tyres were great,although i always thought the pr3s tread looked kinda weird as if they belonged on a touring bike got great mileage from them though
     
  12. Yaya rider

    Yaya rider Well-Known Member

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    Yea I got some funny looks at Snetterton with my PR3's - one guy asked why I had wets on!!
     
  13. Robin Sanderson

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    Funnily enough I was looking at bridge stones on a previous bike and was recommended the bt016 on the front and the bt021 on the rear time and time again! Presumably same manufacturer would be OK front to back as long as they are similar compounds. The 021 was suggested on the rear as it didn't square off as quickly but remained almost as grippy.
     
  14. Dougie D

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    yeah I've heard it seems to be quite common to have a stickier front Tyre than what you have on the rear,presumably to give you more feel from the front,i think because i have the super corsas on the front that going for a sport touring on the rear might just be a step too far,so just to be on the safe side I'll change both when the time comes
     
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  15. lucas60

    lucas60 Active Member

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    I have been using Z8s on my last three bikes currently a speedy ,cant rate them high enough. In MCN they rated the new Metzeler 01 and z8 as the best tyres in their test (tried on track as well)
     
  16. topbanana0

    topbanana0 Well-Known Member

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    Only just got my bike, not even had 1st service yet. But I'm already thinking about new tyres, as I'm aware the Corsa's don't last.
    Think I'll be going for pilot roads, on my last bike (ZX10) I got 5k out of the rear before I sold it, think it could have done another 3 or 4K. I couldn't tell the difference between them and pilot powers.
     
  17. Red Thunder

    Red Thunder Crème de la Crème

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    My vote is for the Z8's
    I am on my second set, the rear lasted 8.5k miles but wore unevenly as 2/3rds of my riding is commuting on the damn motorway, so they had a flat centre. I bought mine off fleabay £125 for front and rear but moulded in 2013.
    Very good grip, feel and wear risen in ALL weather.
     
  18. ArjanB

    ArjanB New Member

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    Point to consider is how the tyre performs in colder wheather conditions (so every day use outside summer period).

    Typically, supersport-oriented tyres (eg Metzeler Racetec K3) are notorious for 'less-than-optimal' ;-) performance if not yet on correct operating temperature, and have issues on getting to this operating temperature when not being pushed / driven on a racetrack when outside temps are low.

    So that would vote for a more touring-oriented tyre.
    Anyone knows how this works out for the M7RR's vs Z8?
     
  19. lucas60

    lucas60 Active Member

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    Z8s are a better all round tyre with good wear rate,feel and warm up quickly unless you are tracking your bike I wouldt consider the 7 rrs
     
  20. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    Suggest you Google some reviews (e.g. here).
    Tyres are always a personal thing and much can be in your head as to what makes you feel confident.
    The M7RR's are generally considered to have good wet/cold weather performance and quick warm-up, so the usual sport tyre concerns mentioned shouldn't be an issue here...... BUT you're only going to get may be 3-4k miles out of them.
    So if you're planning on a big miles Euro tour the Z8's probably your best choice (worrying about the M7RR's seeing out the trip will spoil the fun you had on them on the way out).
    If you're doing shorter trips I'd go for the M7's, you can never have too much grip/feel in my opinion.
    There's also the cost/mile and smiles/£ factors to consider.
    Bottom line.....it all depends on your priorities.
     
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