Corona Virus

Ok mass testing is inaccurate we all know that from day 1.. and?

(I just put a coin in the conspi jukebox just for the social experiment )

 

Yes they do. As it says in the article you linked:

Mass testing of people without covid-19 symptoms is “not an accurate way of screening the general population,” a senior figure at the Department of Health and Social Care has said in a letter seen by The BMJ(see Related content).

The comments were made by James Bethell, one of England’s health ministers, in response to a letter from an MP raising concerns about blanket polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing on behalf of a constituent.

In his letter Bethell stated that “swab testing people with no symptoms is not an accurate way of screening the general population, as there is a real risk of giving false reassurance.” He added, “Widespread asymptomatic testing could undermine the value of testing, as there is a risk of giving misleading results. Rather, only people with covid-19 symptoms should get tested.”

So the key is to limit use of PCR tests for those with symptoms, in which case the risk of error is much less.

 

So if the testing is wrong that the stats are based on?
BTW it’s hard to find anyone in this neck of the woods who believes any of the figures/stats pumped out by government and media regarding Covid,especially the death and infection rates.
There are lies,damn lies and then there’s statistics.

 

The truly sad thing is a childlike faith in politicians who have suspended centuries old freedoms in an improbable attempt to suppress a respiratory virus. You might as well try nailing a blancmange to a wall.

When those same politicians like Hancock and Bethel have no relevant medical qualifications and take their advice from a group like SAGE which is itself full of mathematicians and psychologists......then throw in an utterly supine MSM.

And they won’t engage with genuine respiratory specialists? Even if you don’t think it stinks it is a recipe for serious errors in public health policy and ruinous to the economy that supports the physical and mental wellbeing of the 99.5%.

We are 54 weeks into the 3 weeks to flatten the curve.

 

Just be aware, not only is it a crap tune but the record’s scratched and it now keeps jumping so it repeats endlessly but you don’t even get fully formed sentences

 

I am not responsible for you being tone deaf.

 

That works!! my coin in the jukebox worked !! And the guy starts talking with conspi language !

Social experiment validated.
Thanks Tom for your participation. Don't turn back an illuminati-jew-allien is behind you.

 

You ought to toddle off back to your Johnny Halliday tribute band (no, me neither) because you are embarrassing yourself.

 

Surely with your attachment to all things Times of London you have picked up on the Edinburgh headmaster story on the lockdown impact on his pupils? You don’t let countervailing truths intrude? I am no denier but this is utterly disproportionate and unsupported by reliable science. So why?

 

I’m sure I mentioned something about mental well-being?

 

I've played with one of his drummer once. Great artist. Not my playground but a great man.
How much is you evaluation of the embarrassment percentage? 91% ??


I've put a "like" for the effort finding a french artist, even if you spelled him wrongly.

 

I don't moke that, conspis are probably in a kind of. It's not something to joke about. Moreover they usually are the ones that don't know about.

Studies are starting to raise about. really interesting

 

I remember we were “told” at the beginning of the first Covid outbreak how infectious it was and how careful we should all be.
Now we’re being “told” that the latest mutation is even more infectious.
My question is at what point do rna viruses reach the peak of their infectiousness?
Or are we being fed more of the indigestionable codswallop?

 

Your new avatar

 

Ah,so that’s what Hubaxe looks like

 

and now we have one spinning in circles with the same old stuff, and the other one starting some french bashing

Here we are.

 

yes that was the goal, thanks for pointing that

Genius

 

Natural selection in virus’, as is well understood, is a tendency to greater transmissibility and lower infective effect. Mutant ninja nonsense suggesting it works the other way. It’s why they fade away until a new strain emerges where humans have lower immunity. The SE Asia pandemic shows clear prior immunity from the 2002-4 SARS outbreak.

 

So we’re being “told” we have new strains when in fact they’re mutations.

 

Speaking personally I have no faith in this bunch of politicians, for many reasons. And at no stage did I ever believe that this would be over in 3 weeks or indeed even in 2020.

And I have a business employing 35 people which was completely closed in the first lockdown and is suffering again.

But on balance I have faith that the likes of Whitty, Vallance, JVT, Edmunds, Ferguson and many other health professionals and scientists (including respiratory specialists) understand and think carefully about the issues raised by the deniers including the potential for significant inaccuracies in PCR tests, and believe that what they are doing is correct. What makes you think “they won’t engage with respiratory specialists”? Seriously?

The trouble with the conspiracy theory world is that once you join the roundabout you can never get off. It’s like the Hotel California, and you are the embodiment of it Cal, an intelligent and incredibly well read man who cannot accept, no matter what happens, that a pet theory that has some element of truth in it and raises important issues - as Yeadon’s false positives theory does - is just one piece in a complicated jigsaw and not, in isolation, the Holy Grail.

Yeadon’s original article was a criticism of Pillar 2 testing, ie community testing in car parks and similar, and not a critique of Pillar 1 (hospital) testing. It is a simple fact of mathematics that, as the underlying rate of actual infections increases, the rate of false positives reduces and that the output statistics become more reliable (certainly in terms of trends).

You yourself have argued on here that positive tests are meaningless unless they are accompanied by signs and symptoms. Well admissions to hospital “with COVID” are rising rapidly, ICU admissions “with COVID” are rising rapidly, and deaths “with COVID” are rising rapidly. I suspect that hospital admissions without signs and symptoms are rare, that ICU admissions without signs and symptoms are even rarer, and that deaths without signs and symptoms are unheard of.

And yet still you seem to support and propagate the views of Dr Yeadon, a man who insists that there can’t be a second wave because the first one burnt out once we reached a point of herd immunity.

Fair enough, you have read on the subject much more widely than most and maybe all of us, and you are obviously convinced by something (though what I’m not sure exactly what). But just because you want to believe it, it doesn’t automatically follow that those of us whose investigations and judgement has led us to other conclusions (including uncertainty) are lacking in curiosity, wisdom or integrity.