Triumph holds it's value?

Discussion in 'Triumph General Discussion' started by Nick Staib, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. Nick Staib

    Nick Staib New Member

    Apr 13, 2016
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    Hello everyone,

    My name is Nick and I am in the process of doing my full motorbike license (hoping to have it done in the next month or so). I have been riding a little Suzuki Van Van (125cc) around for a while now and although I love it I have fallen in love with Triumph.

    When I have passed my test I would like to get one - I am very keen on the new Bonneville Street Twin which I think just looks awesome. But then I am obviously weighing up getting a new bike like that on credit, or just going for some older model for a lot less money obviously. However having looked around online it doesn't seem that these bikes really lose much value! 2nd/3rd hand Bonnevilles going for still north of £5,500. So could it be worth just getting a new one?

    Therefore I was hoping someone could offer some friendly advice on the matter for me? Any feedback would be much appreciated.

    Cheers

    Nick
     
  2. Yaya rider

    Yaya rider Well-Known Member

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    Hi Nick.

    I found this same thing when buying my 2012 T100 bonne (now for sale - change means I can't afford to keep it!). Any bonnie in good condition was holding it's value.

    I was tossing an turning with buying a new one or buying second hand.

    I liked the idea of owning the bike, looking after it, and keeping the value should I need to sell it (as I now do!), but you need to have the money up front available.

    Personally, I didn't like the idea of paying a bucket load of interest on the personal loan.

    PCP was very tempting, but it's personal preference - you don't own the bike for the term, although you are getting the use of a brand new bike for a low monthly payment. If at the end of the term you do want to own the bike, you can take a loan out against the current value of the bike...which will naturally be lower, but then you're back the whole interest thing.

    I know the adage goes "if it depreciates - hire it, if it appreciates - buy it" but in this rare circumstance, I think it's a close call that comes down to personal preference and financial position.

    Good luck with your test!!
     
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  3. Nick Staib

    Nick Staib New Member

    Apr 13, 2016
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    Hi Yaya,

    Thanks very much for your response on this, clearly something for me to think about!

    The 2012 T100 is a lovely looking bike - I am sure you will find a buyer soon!

    Cheers

    Nick
     
  4. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    My personal preference would be to go with a second hand model, mainly I don't like owing money if I can help it and also as a first bike you will be commiting yourself to a large wad on loan, if you don't get on with it you won't be able to change it as the equity on the bike will prob be less than the loan, 10m off forecourt depreciation! I would go for an affordable 2nd hand which if you want to sell it you won't lose much, might even make a profit! Then you'll have a better idea of what you want to ride and buy your street twin then!
     
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  5. Sandyb

    Sandyb New Member

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    They do hold a good value, I recently seen a 20 year old Bonny for £3500, versus £5500 for 3 year old or £7000+ for new personally this is partly the reason I have just went for new, but then I did get a good deal on an outgoing model.

    That said as you are new biking I would recommend you go second hand until you experience a bit and then get a good understanding of what you really want, as Crisper said above, I made my choice after been on bikes for 15+ years.

    Plus the big bonus of going secondhand is quite often the bike has already had many extra's already added to it, that if you are happy with the price then you getting all these for free essentially, AM exhaust can be anything from £500 to £1000 all done already.
     
  6. MrOrange

    MrOrange Guest

    As others have said, go buy a second hand model at the lowest end of your budget. It's your first bike, you ARE going to drop it! You also get to learn how to do some basic maintenance tasks, brand new bikes just go back to the dealer, part of warranty / PCP deals is they are dealer serviced.:mad:

    Personally wouldn't touch PCP with a barge pole. Terrible idea. Low APR Tesco loan and buy outright, is the way I have always done it (except Suzuki 0% APR deals, they are good). Or buy on your credit card, get a new 0% balance transfer card and get interest free loan for 18 months;)(did this on my first bike)

    As others have said you might decide you don't like it, and tied into PCP is not good either. Go cheap as and enjoy, you'll love it just as much as a new one and then when you decide what bike really suits, you've got a good deposit in the bike you own fully.

    Bonneville's do keep their money very well, so come selling time, you'll not lose much money.:cool:

    Just my humble opinion :rolleyes::)


    Edit: Bonneviles on ebay from £4k
     
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  7. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Hi Nick and welcome to the forum.
    Good luck with the full licence test - only did mine 23 months ago.
    I bought a second hand Bonneville 2 days later (2004 T100) - for £3000.00. They can seem expensive compared to new models but look around and you might just find one that seems cheap enough. They obviously hold their value and not much goes wrong - they also tend to be looked after so don't be afraid of an older model.
     
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  8. Nick Staib

    Nick Staib New Member

    Apr 13, 2016
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    Guys,

    Thank you all very much for your feedback - really appreciated.

    I agree it is probably best to go down the 2nd/3rd hand route for a while until I have slightly more experience under my belt! Mr Orange that sounds sensible too to get a bit more hands on with everything and learn as I go. And quite a cheeky idea with the credit card! Something to certainly look into. Either that or the Tesco loan. And Sandyb good point about the extras.

    Would anyone be able to recommend a good place to start looking then? I have checked out the usual places like Autotrader etc and haven't really found that much in the way of a bargain. Steve - sounds like you got a really good deal there! Again, any advice on this would be great.

    And then hopefully I can make a profit come selling time, Crispey!

    Thank you all again - it's great how welcoming and helpful everyone is.

    Nick
     
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  9. Yaya rider

    Yaya rider Well-Known Member

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    I bought mine on an interest free CC, as it had been part ex with the bike maker CCM.

    Just keep a look out Nick, there's plenty about. I'm not going to push mine on you, as I don't want to get a reputation on the forum!! I like it here! :D

    If you're interested, drop me a message and I'll send you a link. Taken it off ebay but put it on MCN and Autotrader.
     
  10. MrOrange

    MrOrange Guest

    #10 MrOrange, Apr 13, 2016
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    Other than Autotrader - MCN bikes for sale, Ebay is always a good option, and probably the cheapest.

    Most Bonneville's are owner by more 'sensible' bikers (can refer to them as elderly, if you want ;)), so you won't come across as much thrashed scrap, as if you were after an R6 of GSXR.

    Welcome in, Good bunch of guys (non-gender specific) on this forum, not found any tw*ts yet!!! Which is unusual on forums :D:D:D:D:D(go on any GSXR forum, wall to wall tw*ts)

    (Apoligise for all the brackets;))


    Ebay link to a cheap one , couldn't help myself !!!!!
     
  11. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Good catch! Not far from central london either!!
     
  12. Gary Gerrards Cross

    Gary Gerrards Cross New Member

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    Hi Nick

    are you self employed ? a motorbike is a legitimate business expense, just like a van . . . . . . .
     
  13. Nick Staib

    Nick Staib New Member

    Apr 13, 2016
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    Awesome responses guys - again, really appreciate it.

    Mr Orange that seems like a good one - more my sort of price range!

    And Yaya I would of course be interested to have a look, but I don't wanna drag you along as I won't be looking to buy anything for at least a couple of months (when the test is done hopefully!). And it may well be out of my price range anyway! But wouldn't hurt to have a look!

    Thanks again, guys.
     
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  14. Tigcraft

    Tigcraft Unheard of Member

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    Being older and more sensible riders possibly creates the higher resale values as 'we' don't fluctuate between things as rapidly as young 'uns and can wait long enough to sell the bikes at they're supposed prices.
     
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  15. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Lucky purchase from niece's boyfriend - (he bought one of those German things instead!)
     
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