Featured Uncle Sam’s Scorecard

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  1. Sprinter

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    #321 Sprinter, Dec 7, 2020
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    I seriously believe at the moment, he will be back in four years, and will glean even more support, for his tenacity.
     
  2. MARK DOBSON

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    He doesn’t want the job ,just the power that comes with it ..
    If he had been a half decent man ,he would of walked it ..
     
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  3. Sandi T

    Sandi T It's ride o'clock somewhere!
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    Mr. Sandi's and my go to response to one another over the last several years has been, "Really? You cannot make this shite up." :rolleyes::joy::(
     
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  4. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Now the election question is done, the world has a real serious question that even spread over french media..


    will Melania fill for divorce in next months? :grinning:
     
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  5. figwold

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    I don’t think you can criticise a state election official for not speaking out against the President. Though as for voting for Trump in the first place, I continue to be astonished by how otherwise rational people not only allowed themselves to be deluded in 2016 but maintain their delusions even as he goes ape now.
     
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  6. DCS222

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    Maybe if we aren’t living in that country, with all the cultural variance and experience, maybe it is difficult for us to comment on what would be important to the individual. There is obviously enough substance in policy for a lot of folk to vote on either side. I’m not convinced who’s party I’d have voted for if I haven’t lived and experienced the same stuff as an American... never mind the massively different regional issues across that huge lump of dirt!
     
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  7. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    You're right on the voting intention.
    But there is a wider phenomena in this election. It impact all countries, France for example has very active pro Trump groups (basically ext right, Rassemblement National supporters), even a Qanon branch (lol).
    What makes all of them so passionate about Trump? None of them read US press, or watch US tv, nor speak english It's simple, Trump opened the door to "post truth" behavior, that match their media/convention/politically correct challenging craving.
     
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  8. figwold

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    Actually, reflecting on my post, I think the chaos in the US makes me grateful for the UK system, with all its flaws. Whilst there are many things the founding fathers did well, the US system means that a megalomaniac can (and arguably does) have control of the world’s most powerful military and nuclear codes.

    At least on this side of the pond we do see Prime Ministers thrown out by their own party mid-term when they go a bit doolally (Antony Eden, Margaret Thatcher).
     
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  9. Rich Bryce

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    Thing is Sterling has been in Republican politics for years. He's not just some apolitical civil servant but a political appointee in the Secretary of State's Office.Sterling as a right-wing county politician has been part of the Republican machine in Georgia which has some of the worst examples of systemic black voter suppression in America. Good for him for speaking out now when he and his friends are in harms way. It's just such a pity he and his fellow travelers were happy to support Trump for as long as it suited them.
     
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  10. learningtofly

    learningtofly He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
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    #330 learningtofly, Dec 8, 2020
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    I think you make a very good point, and one that's easily overlooked here in the UK.

    It's almost a mistake to think of the USA as a single nation as there are huge cultural and political divides seen in few other countries. At the very least I tend to think in terms of the large cities/conurbations on the east and west coasts; the midwest; and the south. However, even that's probably a bit simplistic.

    It's also what I would consider an overtly religious country, with not only the largest Christian population in the world, but with - amongst developed countries - a unique proportion of that population (over 50%, I believe) for whom religion plays an important role in their lives. The Bible Belt is very aptly named, the fundamentalism of which doesn't exist over here.

    I think that it's quite hard for us (especially those who have no direct experience of the country) to understand the extent to which the USA differs from the UK. We tend to get exposure to the larger and more cosmopolitan cities like NY and LA, but they're really not representative of the country as a whole.

    I think it also helps explain why Trump achieved such a high share of the popular vote despite what most of us would regard as his toxic policies and personality. I suspect that he didn't so much divide the country as become a catalyst for the widening of the existing divides.

    It's a problem for them.
     
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  11. Callumity

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    Don’t stop on my account. I am enjoying you parading your moral sensibilities. It almost feels like a competition.

    BTW it won’t make a blind bit of difference to unfolding events.
     
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  12. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Really ? :joy::joy::joy::joy:
     
  13. Sprinter

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    Beware scary statement alert.
    There are people in the world that think Trump is a credible option.
     
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  14. Callumity

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    At least 70M and probably rather more. Scary very!
     
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  15. DCS222

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    Neither will a condescending superiority complex... but don’t stop on my account! I’m one who actually enjoys reading your posts... ;)
     
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  16. Callumity

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    Pure affectation on my part!

    I just thought to perform a public service by injecting a little reality into an increasingly fluffy ‘safe space’. God knows how some might react if something jumps out of the fire. It is just about to get properly stoked.

    I did mention this is bigger than Trump?
     
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  17. DCS222

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    You did, yes... and it interests me on a surface level, I don’t know enough about America and its complex politico-legal situation to pretend to understand it... but I know people criticising Trump or Biden could maybe look at the situation in their own country and let us know if they’ve managed their own back garden any better???
     
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  18. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Well could be me but not the right brand or year of make :)
     
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  19. Callumity

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    Google ‘elective dictatorship’. You will pick up on various views of the extent to which Western populations are governed by executive elites under the mantle of democracy. In the immediate context Big Tech and Big Pharma might be thought unduly influential before you get to looking at the underlying ownership and infiltration of media by Chinese money. No doubt merely mentioning such things makes me a conspiracy theorist. Equally you would be foolish to assume Republicans can’t be bribed. I just know many things are not as they seem.

    Heck, who would have thought Texas would just file an action in the Supreme Court alleging procedures in Georgia, Pennsylvania etc., violate the US Constitution?
     
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  20. DCS222

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    I’ll have a look cheers!
     

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