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  1. Russell Stroup

    Russell Stroup Noble Member

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    As always, follow the $$
     
  2. Callumity

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    Well you can struggle to follow the truth when the sainted Christianne Amanpour comes out with bilge like being ‘truthful not neutral’. So whose truth would that be? Neutrality means telling both sides impartially even if you then indicate a preference. You don’t simply bury the story as has been done over Biden Inc.
     
  3. figwold

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    You did Cal, though I’m not sure what the relevance of that assertion is here.

    But nonetheless there does appear to have been “a substantial DoJ investigation”
     
  4. Callumity

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    The Barr statement (if accurately recorded] refers to ‘substantial allegations’. I am not sure where your quoted ‘substantial investigation’ comes from because the election was barely 4 weeks ago. How superficial do you want? That has been the liberal line of ‘nothing to see here’. Which is it?
     
  5. Russell Stroup

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    Seems the same as the right wing line of “There’s fraud here, I know it”
     
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  6. Callumity

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    Hence my avowed observer status.
     
  7. Russell Stroup

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    And my Independent status. The left is too far left, the right is too far right, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
     
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  8. figwold

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    I merely took the Trump-appointed, Republican Attorney General William Barr’s statement at face value and pointed out that it did appear to contradict your assertion that

    “There has of course been no substantial DoJ investigation”.

    As your assertions are based on your own personal knowledge can we assume that you are privy to information Trump’s camp are keeping hidden from their own Attorney General?
     
  9. Callumity

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    Four weeks?! Your expectations of the FBI are wholly unreasonable.

    Reports state Barr spent 3 hrs with Trump after that statement. A bollocking wouldn’t take that long.
     
  10. Russell Stroup

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    I guess Trump can’t fire this guy, otherwise he would have already, just like he did to his head of election cyber security who said there was no electronic vote fraud. He also debunked all claims by Trump of vote fraud.
     
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  11. Callumity

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    Give it a fortnight. It will either crash and burn or take off. Just my opinion.
     
  12. Russell Stroup

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    My problem is that Trump is stating that there is fraud as fact to the American people. And yes this will end in a giant ball of flames
     
  13. OldNick

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    You said that before, about two weeks ago:cool:
     
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  14. OldNick

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    This whole situation has no winners, if there has been fraud the democratic process collapses, if there is no fraud the damage has already been done and doubt has been raised in people’s minds
    Now what if there has been a fraud but no one can detect it because there really was a ‘gateway’ into the voting software as alleged by the Paul Gossar affidavit

    I do believe we’ve come to the end of the line regarding appointing President Elect Biden, the ramifications will rumble on for years and in due course this election will be immortalised in Urban Myth and become a mainstay for conspiracy theorists
     
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  15. Callumity

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    On 13 Nov I said the next 10 days would be instructive. They were. We got an outline of the allegations by type and State. We started to see legal tactics and politics taking shape. It was never going to be instant gratification. But Russell is right, the potential fallout means it is a bit like defusing a bomb.

    I also said there is no President Elect. CNN don’t have that power, much as they would like it. We have a President and a President Presumptive.

    Give it a fortnight. We will then have seen how it plays out in State legislatures and the nature and quality of likely technical evidence. I repeat, it is bigger than Trump. It is about faith in the Electoral system to peacefully transfer power.....or not and every 4 years thereafter.
     
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  16. figwold

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    Sorry but it doesn’t wash Cal. Barr said

    "To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,"

    I don’t know whether he’s correct or not, but that sentence directly contradicts the allegations put out there by, inter alia, Trump, Sidney Powell, Giuliani, and as Trump’s Attorney General he should be an insider on this.

    He didn’t say something along the lines of “there’s definitely something fishy gone on here, looks huge but we can’t prove it yet”.

    or even “bear with us this sucker could go down”

    So what are you seeing that he isn’t?
     
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  17. figwold

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    And he was right to be fair. I can see what looks like smouldering wreckage ...:p
     
  18. Callumity

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    What am I seeing?

    Stuff like this:



    Watch it and refute. All of it. She has the ring of truth about her.
     
  19. figwold

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    It’s not for me to refute or follow up on. But it clearly hasn’t persuaded Trump’s Attorney General, has it?
     
  20. Callumity

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    #200 Callumity, Dec 2, 2020
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    :laughing:She only gave testimony yesterday AFTER Barr’s statement. You haven’t had time to hear what might hurt your ears!!:joy:
     

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