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  1. Wessa

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    This week should be a really interesting one.....
     
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  2. OldNick

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    I can understand why they may want to go to the Supreme Court (top federal court) the interesting thing was the quote that Guilliani was backing away from fraud accusations when actually in the federal Pennsylvania court
     
  3. MadMrB

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    Just a guess, but maybe they want to progress the fraud in its entirety in the federal court, and I can see logic in that. If the fraud is as widescale as is being suggested, and it was organised at a multi-state, national or even international level then it makes perfect sense not to progress it piecemeal in the lower courts. :confused:
     
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  4. Callumity

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    You have to mentally separate the conduct and probity of the election (civil law) from federal or State offences (crime). Rude & Co are about the former. It is for State and Federal authorities to follow up any revealed criminal conduct quite separately.
     
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  5. OldNick

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    Republican Senators melting away now amidst claims of no evidence of fraud

    https://apple.news/AV2TTXN83QEiK9p43wF-32Q

    Getting a bit disappointed with the waiting game - are the Republicans backed by Southern Rail? They promise information and don’t deliver:cool:
     
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  6. Old dumb arse

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    Grab your popcorn guys it's going to be a long drama. Lots of influence involved starting with the unions in the 60's.
     
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  8. Callumity

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    The reporting of Trump’s concession is like Mark Twain’s reported observation on hearing he was on his death bed - greatly exaggerated.

    The letter written to Mr Biden is studiously correct but makes no concessions since nothing gets ahead of Vote Certification and the Electoral College.

    Much water still to flow under the bridge.....the best may yet be to come. Time will tell.
     
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  9. Callumity

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    #109 Callumity, Nov 24, 2020
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    I’ll drink to that.....

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    and Biden’s practically dribbling already. That Kamala’s got sharp elbows too.
     
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  11. OldNick

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    Picking up my packet of bourbons and watching intently for the response to these findings @MadMrB

    Finally some numbers coming out.....
     
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  13. MadMrB

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    Wow! 350% of votes to registered voters, that's impressive! o_O

    Processing votes faster than is physically possible with the equipment present, by nearly 290,000 votes, impressive again! o_O

    If it is genuine, then surely the fallout from this is going to be massive :confused:
     
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  14. Callumity

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    Well I don’t trust much online - especially that Triumph lot.
     
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  15. Callumity

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    However if I was a Dem I might just be checking on extradition treaties.
     
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  16. MadMrB

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    They probably already have been doing so... following on from their other checks...

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    For the snowflakes with a sense of humour failure, this is posted for comedy purposes only :rolleyes:
     
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  17. figwold

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    Dodgy Pres, dodgy lawyers, dodgy affidavit, dodgy logic. It’s been well and truly trashed. A few highlights:

    • the affidavit made a major mistake. Its data wasn’t actually from Michigan; it was from Minnesota. What’s more, its conclusions about over-votes even in those Minnesota locations aren’t backed up data from the Minnesota secretary of state.
    • It focuses on alleged over-votes specifically in Wayne County, Michigan. However it then lists the Minnesota precincts not just as if they are in Michigan, but specifically in Wayne County. The text states that, in Wayne County, “25 of those 47 precincts/townships show 100% turnout.” But it then lists 25 precincts from Minnesota.
    • It’s not exactly clear where the data on “estimated voters” in each precinct comes from. It cites “SOS Est. Voters” -- an apparent reference to the secretary of state. Yet the Minnesota secretary of state also has a detailed breakdown of its registered voters, and its numbers don’t show over-votes.
    • The biggest alleged over-vote in the affidavit is from Benville Township — the place where actual voters were allegedly 350 percent of estimated voters. According to the Minnesota Secretary of State’s election results, 63 people voted in the township. But its data show there were precisely that many registered voters in the township at 7 a.m. on Election Day, and then eight more registered on Election Day (Minnesota has same-day registration). So no over-vote at all.
    • The story is the same for the second-highest alleged over-vote: Monticello’s 1st Precinct. There, 3,693 people were registered when polls opened, and another 385 registered on Election Day. The number of votes was 3,211.
    • The number of votes in each of the next three biggest alleged over-voting precincts (Monticello-2 and two precincts in Albertville) also fall well shy of the number of registered voters.
    • Another key reason the difference between states matters: the voting equipment used. Minnesota secretary of state has confirmed that the precincts identified above didn’t use the Dominion software that the affidavit cites as being problematic and that the Trump campaign has linked to voter fraud
    • And even in Michigan, the Princeton University professor cited in the affidavit as raising concerns about Dominion has clarified that Michigan doesn’t use the specific software he warned about. He noted Michigan uses paper ballots which can be recounted by hand -- “the state-of-the-art most-secure-known way of conducting elections."
    And then there’s one final key point. Let’s say, for argument’s sake, that the affidavit’s data are accurate based on numbers from somewhere else. What if the Minnesota secretary of state has just somehow done a really good job at covering its tracks by rigging its voter registration numbers too?

    Well, even in that case, this would be a pretty harebrained plot to throw the election to Biden. While the affidavit appears to suggest these were precincts in Wayne County, in fact they are from rural Minnesota — i.e., Trump country. In Benville, where the 63 actual votes were allegedly 350 percent of total voters, Trump won 75 percent of those 63 votes. Trump also won about 6 in 10 votes in Monticello and more than 6 in 10 in Albertville. The results in each precinct are also similar to 2016, suggesting this wasn’t a bunch of votes being added to Biden’s tallies.


    Giuliani at Thursday’s new conference repeatedly attacked the media for not reporting on these affidavits, saying they are real, bona fide evidence of fraud.

    “It’s your job to read these things and not falsely report that there’s no evidence,” Giuliani said.

    And it’s the Trump campaign’s job to actually do some research on the claims they spout in public and in court.
     
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  18. OldNick

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    That was a bit of a dry read, but the potentially really incriminating part is para8 which says there ‘is no protected real time audit log’ ! This means (as they claim to have demonstrated) that anyone can change the data and leave no trace!! So, for example, my finance system at work has to have certificated by regulatory professional bodies unalterable audit logs of any transaction, changes, or inputs, without this our auditors would not be able to rely on the system data and our accounts would be qualified - in essence they publicly say our accounts are rubbish !!!!

    To have a ballot counting system without this is criminal at worst and foolhardy at best and opens the system to the points outlined in para’s 9 to 21!!

    The only problems I have with that tweet though are that the affidavit isn’t notarised (so it’s a signed statement with no legal standing) and I saw the table of %age of people voting and it had been debunked - but I can’t find the article now

    Onto the custard creams.....
     
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  19. Callumity

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    Welcome back! The difference between us on this one is that you confidently prejudge. I simply spectate so I cannot lose!
     
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  20. figwold

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