I have actually posted very little on this thread @Ron Ashurst or indeed the last USA election thread but believe me plenty of other UK based Triumph forum members did so, I personally don't think @figwold should be singled out for having his own opinion or reply to previous posts on this subject and not one @Havit should be called upon to look at, IMHO.
10/10 I have only just noticed I got lost on the way to the lounge I have also tried to be fairly apolitical. I happen to think it is important how the great democracies work through these things just like our own response to illiberal measures to a respiratory disease that turned out not to be the Black Death. I think a Pub Section could accommodate non bike chat that some would wish to give a body swerve.....plus What are you drinking tonight? of course.
Well this is a forum, we're all on here to discuss whatever subjects are raised aren't we ? Or ignore, as we see fit.
I think we have the same songsheet. No smoke without fire...... I am too respectful of the US electorate (who are hurting on both sides) to tell them how to fix it but viewing it through the lazy prism of European anti-Trumpism sees only a tree and misses the entire forest.....
fact checking (one of many) refutes. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ghost-voters-in-29-states/ Fitton refutes climat change, support Bannon, etc.. extreme right views..The good point with him is he wants to keep his fight on legal basis. I won't enter into the game. Just wish to point that in this thread we have again a confusion between "belief" and "opinion". Opinion is based on acceptable facts, belief are found on.. belief. That's why all these discussion are endless, and only grow anger.
That's pure belief, conspiracy theory. Nothing in the facts globally goes in this direction. Apart if you consider all attorneys judges that rejected fraud claims, all vote office, everything is member of a big conspiracy. You see? it's not a question of election, it's just non sense to me, and hopefully to the main majority of people that don't want to bother answering those "theory". They are maybe right, I should probably do the same.
Contributors, that means anybody. But whatever, I mentioned that to point you can always find refutation. It was to illustrate the opinion/belief confusion.
Is Snopes Biased or Reliable? 5 Facts About Its Accuracy https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/is-snopes-biased-reliable/
Except we have Democrats of solid reputation also alleging fraud and criminality on camera .....and they are not talking about Republicans
The guy who said he will support Trump since April 2020 but pretend he still is democrat. That's what you call "Democrats of solid reputation" To complete the joke you can also quote Rob Blagojevich. There are probably much more "Republicans of solid reputation" that are dropping Trump, and refute fraud allegation.
. I did watch when it was posted originally, and I couldn’t see him “alleging fraud and criminality”. He seemed rather to be moaning about opinion polls. If that is the best you’ve got then it’s game over.
Excuse my wry amusement that the ‘nothing to see’ camp here are headed by a finance officer and a Frenchman. Stones and glass houses spring to mind. Paris even makes Brussels blush. Traditional US media have long since traded journalism for political activism. Meanwhile the process grinds into gear and we shall see where the evidence takes us. Sidney Powell certainly isn’t holding back Time will tell if she is onto something. Unlike Twitter and others who ignore/censor the numbers marching today in DC.
Oh and if you are looking for the extreme Right racial supremacists reported by Sky to be on the march The Proud Boys are the mixed race group headed by an eloquent half Black half Hispanic guy. So our beloved media ain’t much better.