Corona Virus

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  1. garethr

    garethr Well-Known Member

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    #2081 garethr, Oct 30, 2020
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    Johnson sees himself as a latterday Churchill, valiantly leading the nation to war in an existential fight against an implacable foe.

    If nothing else, he, along with a complicit opposition and a supine media, has certainly proved that "the first casualty when war comes is truth".
     
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  2. JtC

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    “Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities!” —Voltaire (1694-1778)
     
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  3. Wessa

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    It is a gremlin in the app mate :). If your app is still green and polling you are ok and can ignore it. I have had a few as well.
     
  4. Wishbone

    Wishbone First Class Member

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    So just another ClusterFeck then?
    Thank feck thsi is a avirus we are fighting coz anything else would have won by now!!
     
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  5. Wessa

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    No worries mate. It is definitely easy with this stuff to get paraniod.
     
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  6. Callumity

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    And slipping down this week’s Mortality Charts (despite Chicken Littles voting for a pointless and deeply damaging lockdown) at No 19 is?
     
  7. DCS222

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    Kajagoogoo ???
     
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  8. garethr

    garethr Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps another reason that Vallance and Whitty presented two false statistics to justify the "lockdown".
     
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  9. ChrisJHuff

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    i was a nurse - A&E then Theatres... but had a bit of a breakdown in 2010 so left (still not quite right in the head) mainly through overwork...extra shifts and never finishing on time.....the current scenario in the health services scares me to think i could have been on the front line with it by now.....everyone caring for others deserves more than a load of morons clapping - a decent pay rise and more staff would be a start....but that won't happen any year soon
     
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  10. andypandy

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    Too much money wasted on tiers of mis-management and pointless projects.
     
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  11. JtC

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  12. Thripster

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    First case in UK reported on 31st January 2020. Normally (without Covid), you'd expect to see somethink like 1660 deaths per day (UK) from all causes. Normally, therefore, in that period (281 days) you'd expect to see 466460 deaths. We have seen 49,134 deaths in the same period where the patient has died with Covid-19 (not necessarily of Covid-19). So, if all 49,134 deaths were attributed to Covid, an increase over the normal expected deaths of about 10%. The average age of Covid related deaths is 81 years of age. Given that we know, from the government and anecdotally, that the majority of the deaths of people with Covid are with people who have other, serious health issues and, in the same way that deaths due to flu precipitate earlier death for those that are vulnerable, so it must be with Covid-19.


    Globally - 50,395,174 cases - 1,256,177 deaths. % cases of population (7.8 billion)=0.64%
    % deaths of population =0.016%
    % deaths of cases =2.49%

    US - 9,968,015 cases - 237,568 deaths % cases of population (331M) =3.01%
    % deaths of population =0.071%
    % deaths of cases =2.38%

    UK - 1,195,350 cases - 49,134 deaths % cases of population (67.89M) =1.76%
    % deaths of population =0.072%
    % deaths of cases =4.10%



    Spanish Flu

    World population - 1.8 billion
    Deaths (estimated between 20 million and 100 million)

    % deaths of population (using 20 million figure): 1.1%
    % deaths of population (using 100M) : 5.5%


    World War 1 - Number of deaths (globally) - 22 million

    World War 2 - Number of deaths (globally) - 75 to 85 million




    You can draw your own conclusions.

    Sources: Population figures: Wikipedia
    Cases and deaths: John Hopkins and ONS
    Percentages : Me (so please check)
     
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  13. Thripster

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    PS. Used 'Somethink' to be down with the crowd. Spelling correctly is elitist apparently.
     
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  14. Thripster

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    And ago ding split infinitives.
     
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  15. Iamtheonlyone

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    Has anyone seen the thousands of protesters in Manchester yesterday? On remembrance day as well, disgusting.
     
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  16. Thripster

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    No, what are they protesting about? Hope their cause is worth more than the lives of those they may be passing Covid to.
     
  17. Iamtheonlyone

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  18. Thripster

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    See what you mean. I'm afraid that appreciation for the sacrifice of others has given way to celebrating celebrity, diversity and BLM - those seem to be the matters of import at my boys school. And there is no surprise given that the majority of teachers follow a left leaning prejudice. Now there is a point of discussion. As for the young not remembering the wars? In a way, I can understand it - how many people now remember Waterloo or Trafalgar? Or Naseby? Or Agincourt? Or the second Punic War? At one time national celebrations were held - now just a few in the armed forces. I suppose we are all of an age - but I draw the line at men's face cream adverts.
     
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  19. Wessa

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    It is strange that these people are protesting about freedoms, when thousands gave their lives so they could . Perhaps they should take a step back and think that through.
     
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  20. Thripster

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    Yes Wessa - very well put and a point I meant to convey but didn't. The irony of these people who mock the very institutions which gave them the right to demonstrate.............and the lack of knowledge about the difficulties over a thousand years to reach that point.........seems to me that the foundations of that once, very powerful institution are being destroyed at a prodigious rate by people/groups who know not what they do.
     
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