Where To Sell Air Guns?

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  1. Don the Don

    Don the Don Bigger Than The Average Bear

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    "Baikel" one of the best value guns that used to be, firing pins like nails never missed and no misfires, their ammo was good but was a very dirty and noisy round almost like black powder but was hard hitting, I have a lot of affection to Russian made arms made to do a job
     
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  2. Shaun64

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    I had a single barrel baikel 4.10 hushpower fully moderated which was well made, they really are very quiet.
     
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  3. Shaun64

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    Incredible shooting.
     
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  4. dreitopf

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    If the burglar will attack me with gun or knife....yes.First shoot for warning...2nd final.....or 2nd first..its prohibitetd to carry a gun outside home....only on the way to gunsmith or gun range in a locked box.
    two years ago I've seen 2 guys with a old opel and bulgarian licens plate in my dead end street...driving slowly with open windows....looking...spying.... I only repeat the unloaded shotgun in my door....:cool:...they moved with speed. Since corona we have not so much burglars here...thanks to god..but before ....... In this spring the houses right and left from my home are sold to cops...hehehe...and now the police cars are present many times a day.
     
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  5. Big Sandy

    Big Sandy WOOF! WOOF!

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    Fuck off you nosy cunt
    We stopped a burglar once. he left after a couple hours, gave me £20 as he felt sorry for me. :)
     
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  6. dreitopf

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  7. dreitopf

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    This sign at my garage door

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  8. Junksmith

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    It's a few years since I left the UK but I remember there was a crafty change in the law that prohibited the carrying of air guns in public under any circumstances. You can carry and unloaded shotgun as long as you have your licence and produce it to a police officer on request and the same for a rifle, as long as it is also in a case but the legal people pulled a fast one on a quiet Friday in parliament that effectively meant you could buy an air gun in a shop but there was no way to get it to your house.
    They set it up so you couldn't even put it in your car or ask the postman to deliver it but you could go to the shop and visit it each week.
    I may be way out of date and you can ignore me but it's worth checking before you start.
     
  9. Tricky-Dicky

    Tricky-Dicky Crème de la Crème

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    You can carry an air weapon in public so long as it in a slip or case or car and your over 18 without having to have a license ...so far.
     
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  10. Pegscraper

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    I still have the .22 Weirauch HW35E I bought almost 40 years ago when I used to go shooting 'vermin' with a friend on his relative's farm. It still performs like new. I also had a FAC in the late 80's/early 90's with a couple of rifles and two handguns for for full bore target shooting which I enjoyed immensely. The only thing the Weirauch gets used for now is despatching the occasional rat in the back garden. We're keen bird watchers/feeders in our house which attracts rats like a dinner gong. I've tried "rat proof" feeders and feeding stations but rats are accomplished climbers and pretty agile.
     
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  11. Iceman

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    In reply to Shaun64 asking the best place to sell his air rifle, at present there is a shortage of air rifles in dealers, prices are very good (to sell that is) so take it to your local dealer and you will get a good price, this saves the hassle of selling it private and what than can involve, you have to be a registered firearms dealer to sell them (not as an individual though) and any sale has to be face to face, the law does not differentiate between air rifles and other types of guns, if an offence is committed with an air rifle then there are 38 different offences and the Courts treat this very seriously as the law classes air rifles as firearms, even if they are sub 12 ft pounds. You can have an air rifle, firearm, shotgun or pistol/revolver when travelling to and from any lawful shooting, and contrary to popular belief you can hold a S5 pistol/revolver, when you have demonstrated "good reason" and it is approved by your areas Police Firearms Licensing department then it is classed as a S1 Firearm, good reason for example would be a professional deer stalker for humane despatch, an open certificate allows a person to shoot wherever they want when they want, provided that person has lawful authority. Unlike the U.K. Scotland requires any air weapon to be licenced, travelling to Scotland to shoot with your own weapon is bureaucratic, although at present travelling in Europe if you have a European Firearms Pass is more straightforward. The law is very complex on Firearms, you can legally hold shotgun cartridges without a Shotgun Certificate, you can't buy them however without showing a current certificate, unlike S1 ammunition that requires entering on your FAC there is no restriction on how many cartridges you can buy or hold. The only thing I would strongly advise is if you have any weapon then make sure you have appropriate insurance. On a different note but very relevant, I would be very cautious putting any pictures of weapons on social media, an increasing number of people have had their SGS and or FACs revoked for doing so. Ride safe and good luck Shaun64 selling your bargain BSA.
     
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  12. Iceman

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    In reply to Shaun64 asking the best place to sell his air rifle, at present there is a shortage of air rifles in dealers, prices are very good (to sell that is) so take it to your local dealer and you will get a good price, this saves the hassle of selling it private and what than can involve, you have to be a registered firearms dealer to sell them (not as an individual though) and any sale has to be face to face and the person is 18 or over, with ID and make a note of their details. The law does not differentiate between air rifles and other types of guns, if an offence is committed with an air rifle then there are 38 different offences and the Courts treat this very seriously as the law classes air rifles as firearms, even if they are sub 12 ft pounds. You can have an air rifle, firearm, shotgun or pistol/revolver when travelling to and from any lawful shooting, and contrary to popular belief you can hold a S5 pistol/revolver, when you have demonstrated "good reason" and it is approved by your areas Police Firearms Licensing department then it is classed as a S1 Firearm, good reason for example would be a professional deer stalker for humane despatch, an open certificate allows a person to shoot wherever they want when they want, provided that person has lawful authority. Unlike the U.K. Scotland requires any air weapon to be licenced, travelling to Scotland to shoot with your own weapon is bureaucratic, although at present travelling in Europe if you have a European Firearms Pass is more straightforward. The law is very complex on Firearms, you can legally hold shotgun cartridges without a Shotgun Certificate, you can't buy them however without showing a current certificate, unlike S1 ammunition that requires entering on your FAC there is no restriction on how many cartridges you can buy or hold. The only thing I would strongly advise is if you have any weapon then make sure you have appropriate insurance. On a different note but very relevant, I would be very cautious putting any pictures of weapons on social media, an increasing number of people have had their SGS and or FACs revoked for doing so. Ride safe and good luck Shaun64 selling your bargain BSA.
     
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  13. Pegscraper

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    When I held a FAC, the amount of live ammunition you could hold was stipulated on the certificate although you could hold virtually unlimited quantities of live primers, powder, bullet heads etc. for reloading which is what I did, primarily because factory loaded ammunition in the larger calibers was expensive. Surplus .303 ammo was still plentiful though and much cheaper. You could even own semi auto assault type rifles, which I was thinking of getting, up until the massacre in Hungerford in Aug'87 which led to the outlawing of such weapons. I think I'd just sold my guns and turned in my FAC when the Dunblane shootings led to a similar banning of full bore hand guns, of the type I held, for club/target use.
     
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  14. Shaun64

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    thanks iceman for your very informative reply, I’ve two dealers on my doorstep I can try, I’ve decided for now to hang onto it for a while as all this air gun chat has reinvigorated my interest in air guns:), I am hoping to move when the right bungalow comes up and if it’s a half decent garden then I’ll keep it for target shooting cheers and thanks for everyone else’s reply’s.
     
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  15. Pegscraper

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    You can also advertise guns for sale in Airgun World and Airgunner magazines.
     
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  16. SleepyOwl

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    Can you legally shoot seagulls or pigeons.
    What exactly are you allowed to shoot?
     
  17. Pegscraper

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    We also have a grey squirrel visiting the garden now and again and it's very destructive, it's ruined two bird feeders. I wired the lid on one of them but it just chewed through the plastic body of a £15 feeder but I've held off despatching it so far. Apparently, if you trap one alive it's illegal to release it and it must be humanely destroyed. Damage to property aside they're actually fun and quite comical to watch with their antics and acrobatics.
     
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  18. Iceman

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    In response to sleepy eyes question the following applies. General Licences in England are currently issued by Defra, you don't need to apply to use a general licence, you are however required by law to abide by their terms and conditions, if you control pest species under general licences in England, then you need to be aware that the licences issued by Defra are on a temporary basis and expire on the 31st July 2020, that said Defra has stated they will reissue new licences from August 1st 2020. The current licences are as follows.
    Carrion Crows licence to kill them (GL34) to prevent serious damage to livestock
    Canada Geese licence to kill or take them GL28 for public health and safety
    Woodpigeons (GL31) licence to kill or take them to prevent serious damage to crops
    Wild Birds (GL34) licence to kill or take for conservation purposes
    Wild Birds (GL35) licence to kill or take for public health and safety
    Wild Birds (GL36) licence to kill or take to prevent serious damage
    Gull Licence
    If you wish to control lesser black-backed gulls and herring gulls you require a special licence and forms are available.
    Foxes are lawful quarry (although good reason also applies), a requirement is placed on landowners to control rabbits and there is no closed season. I don't think the forum is the ideal place for these topics, but that's just my personal view as I just enjoy bikes and riding. There is a lot of misinformation in the media, it's a very emotive subject. A word of warning however, if you have lawful authority to control any wild bird or animal for the above reason, then fully understand the conditions of the General Licences and codes of practice, failure to do so will undoubtedly result in a prosecution, and no you can't shoot any of the above in your garden, I think we should all be trying to encourage all wildlife (apart from rats) to our gardens, much has disappeared and simple things can be effective in redressing the balance. If in any doubt look on the Defra or BASC websites. Safe riding all.
     
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  19. Pegscraper

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    #59 Pegscraper, Jul 14, 2020
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    I think the only wildlife we need to worry about as bikers is roadkill. Had a few close calls over the years. Once hit a seagull at speed on an FZR1000, luckily it hit the screen first which broke, then bounced off and hit me full in the visor almost having me off. Blood, shite and feathers everywhere. Had a close call with a Red Legged Partridge ( think thats what it was) last year on the Z. Saw it in the road ahead, no good trying to avoid it 'cos you've no idea which way it will go so kept straight on, it took off and flew straight into the nose of the fairing. Turned round and rode back to see if it was just injured but it was dead and not a mark on it. Laid it to rest under a nearby bush. A direct strike full on in the face from a bird this size can be disastrous.

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  20. Tricky-Dicky

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    People who shoot air guns do not necessarily shoot game many like myself find this kind of quarry sufficient.;)

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