Scrambler Triumph Scrambler 2014 and 2015 model year

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  1. Mostec

    Mostec New Member

    Jul 10, 2014
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    Hello,
    Please, I need information. What is the difference between Trimuph Scrambler 2014 and 2015 model year. Is this just the combination of colours or are they any improvements on engine, brakes etc?
    Thank you in advance for your help.
     
  2. chrispy

    chrispy Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there is much difference but to be sure give your local dealer a call of e mail ,sorry can't be more help :smile:
     
  3. burnsies

    burnsies New Member

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    I just got my my15 Scrambler. The differences are that you can now get plain black colour (like mine), the sump guard comes as standard and the rims are black matte instead of silver.

    All other features are the same.

    I have to say that I am immensely disappointed with mine as when I did the handover at the Triumph dealership, the salesman told me that the frames rust and it has to be sprayed with oil even if it's kept in the garage. It makes me feel like a compromise too far so I dare not use mine. I have had the 1 month service done at 50 miles for the warranty and have wrapped it up now. As soon as spring arrives I will sell it. It's a real shame because it looks quite nice and sounds awesome with the Triumph loud pipes but I can't stand the thought if it either rusting away or dripping with grease.

    I will keep my Explorer as my main bike but switch to a Ducati Scrambler for my toy.
     
  4. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    #4 Richard H, Dec 12, 2014
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    I'm honestly amazed the salesman said that! I can not imagine Triumph paint their Scrambler frames any different to the rest of their bikes. If you bought new you have a warranty, if you are using on salty roads it may benefit from a treatment of something like ACF 50 but washing the crap off and drying the bike before putting it away should be good enough.

    By the way I come from a background of Ducati ownership and I have never ever had so many warranty issues with a new bike as I had with that!

    For peace of mind why not contact Triumph direct and ask them about the frames, I suspect the salesman was talking rubbish, ride and enjoy your bike.
     
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  5. burnsies

    burnsies New Member

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    I was also really taken aback. He said that they use traditional manufacturing methods on the Scrambler frame which unfortunately means that they are prone. I was stunned. I said that I would have thought that they would galvanise but he said that would make it too heavy!!!

    I thought I was buying a classic style without the compromise of an older bike, but that is not how the salesman described it at the handover. It's now dripping with ACF50 just in case.

    I won't be using on any roads, let alone salty roads, so it will be a really nice bike for someone (else).

    The Scrambler is okay to ride and it's great for getting round traffic as it is so narrow and has quite nice pull (as far as you can tell when running in). My Explorer and Thunderbird have never given any build concerns (just watch for pitting on the wheels of the T'Bird and that's it). It could do with more modern-feeling suspension too if I'm honest, but I guess that's part of the character.

    Thanks for the Ducati feedback, I think it is a risk getting a whole new bike, as there could well be teething problems on top of production problems, but hopefully Audi will be keeping a close eye on quality control.


     
  6. ColLamb

    ColLamb Active Member

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    Galvanising!!! On a frame it would add a half pound of weight at most, paint also does not stick very well to zinc.

    The traditional methods would proably involve lower grade steels with more impurities hence more potential for corrosion.

    All in all an unsatisfactory state of affairs.

    ACF everything except discs, chain and sprockets, yes that will do.

    Ignore the salesman, tell the boss at the dealership about your experience, then ride the Scrambler like its the last bike you will every own, enjoy it, it will not disintegrate under you, even the FiATs and Lancias of the sixties and seventies lasted for a few years, my Wifes lasted seventeen years so you have plenty of time before that dreaded morning when you open up the garage door and are presented with an engine surrounded by mounds of rust

    Enjoy it
     
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  7. PJT

    PJT Active Member

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    I think your salesman was talking a load of twaddle. Get the bike out and enjoy it. Regular cleaning and polishing will keep it in good condition.
     
  8. burnsies

    burnsies New Member

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    I appreciate the feedback guys.

    It did seem like c**p, but I would have expected the c**p pre-sale, not on collection, so it had a little more credibility and left me feeling a bit sick after handing over the £8k.
     
  9. folkbloke

    folkbloke Well-Known Member

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    Never heard such a load of bollox.

    I've had two scramblers as courtesy bikes and neither of them had rusty frames (and I know that one of them spent most of it's time outside the dealer with no special protection).

    Like others have said, speak to Triumph direct and let them know what the salesman said and in the meantime enjoy the bike :wink:
     
  10. ChrisHall

    ChrisHall New Member

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    ACF50 is brilliant stuff, I've used it for years and never seen any corrosion on any of my bikes, although I've never used the bikes when there is salt on roads, so I can't comment on that level of protection. As this is your toy, I suspect you wouldn't either. I have a 2 year old Aprilia Caponord 1200 with 15,000 miles on the clock which I use in all weathers (except salty roads). Many of the components are bare and machined aluminium and they still look like they have just come from the factory such is the protection given by ACF50.

    I would say that ACF50 is an ultra thin film product hence you don't need to apply a thick coat, all that does is make dirt stick to the excess. I spray the bike with ACF50 3 times a year (Spray gun from Screwfix - £18, 24 litre compressor from MachineMart - £95). 1 litre of ACF50 lasts me about 5 years, job done!
     
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  11. ChrisHall

    ChrisHall New Member

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    ....and the salesman's an idiot
     
  12. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    The bloke's a tosser ! I've had my T100 for nearly 5 yrs now and not a single sign of rust - and I'm not at all anal about cleaning; just sensible.

    Ignore the twât tbh and enjoy your new toy.
     
  13. James ellerby

    James ellerby Active Member

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    I pick my triumph scrambler up in 3 weeks - maybe this is one post I shouldn't have read :eek:o_Oo_O

    2 things are certain, I need to buy some ACF 50 and i need to ride it like I am going to never have another bike :D

    would you all recommend a quick squirt of wd40 on the chain after a wash? i always used a chain grease previous by Hein Gerrick, but they closed
     
  14. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi James, as others will know I'm a big fan of Scottoiler automatic chain oilers, having had the same one for maybe 15yrs and and 5 bikes. Never needed to adjust the chain or buy a new one. Literally fit and forget.
     
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  15. James ellerby

    James ellerby Active Member

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    thanks Dave, food for thought
     
  16. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    James, I'm a lazy old fart, I love cleaning my bike but I'm not anal, had it for 2 years now and she still looks lovely, apart from the melted plastic bag on the exhaust which I will attack when the weather improves!!
     
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  17. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Nay bother mate !
     
  18. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Never read this thread before - what a load of b*ll*cks!
    My 2004 Bonnie had no rust on it at all - the only thing looking a bit jaded was the cam cover - soon replaced off ebay.
    ACF 50 I can vouch for though, great stuff and it lasts a while.
     
  19. Tigcraft

    Tigcraft Unheard of Member

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    I'll second that just like Steve said. I also go down to the pound shop and buy half a dozen cans of silicone spray and just blast everywhere, rubber, chrome, casings stanchions, rims and switchgear, on all my bikes.
     
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  20. James ellerby

    James ellerby Active Member

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    Thanks everyone, I've only every had a kwak that rotted in 6 months of new and it's put me off buying another.

    The later model scramblers are made in Thailand now so it did seem plausible at first.
     
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