Scrambler Scrambler 1200 Suspension

I'll have to agree with you regarding the disappointment of finding out I'm to heavy for a bike this large. I ended up purchasing my XE without having ridden it as I had surgery on my right foot 7 weeks ago and bought my bike around 5 weeks ago. When I signed off on the purchase I ask them to setup the bike's suspension for a heavy load (I'm 6'2" and 260lbs which I think is around 115 kg). Having nothing but time on my hands for the past few weeks I've watched every YouTube video posted featuring the new Triumph Scrambler 1200s. I came across a video I posted in a another thread talking about suspension with an Ohlins technician who set up a XE for a vlogger that was just a bit over 200 lbs. I went out to check the settings on my bike to find out that neither of the rear shocks were set the same much less for my fat ass. My local dealer didn't do anything to them at all apparently. I turned my rear shocks to the settings recommended in that video and broke quarantine (for essential transportation of course) and ignored Dr recommendation for the first time this past weekend just to try the bike out around the neighborhood (on my way to the store for necessary items).

I found the settings to be relatively smooth if a little on the tight side in the rear. I found I was actually aiming for pot holes and speed bumps just to try it out. The front shocks feel disproportionality soft but the rear gave more than enough support for street riding without being hash. My folks have 40 acres not far from here with plenty of off road potential but I'll have to wait for Dr clearance to get out there for a visit and try my settings off road.

Since I'm coming from an Indian Scout Bobber that I bottomed out the suspension if I rode over an ant's ass I'm going to have to reserve final judgment until I get some seat time.

 

Repooh if you like the bike then spend some money on sorting the suspension it’s the best money you’ll ever spend on a bike , I bought a new Daytona 675 in 2014, the standard suspension was rock hard it was only any good on smooth roads it was no good for Yorkshire’s bumpy A & B roads, I took it to Reactive suspension in York and spent £1100 and transformed the bike into a very fast bike on non perfect roads, it was the best money by far I’ve ever spent on a bike, I did the same again with a 900 tracer which took some catching, it’s shite that you’ve spent all that money on a new bike and it’s not perfect for you but I am afraid bike manufacturers can’t make a bike that suits everyone suspension wise, I don’t why but people think nothing to spending a £1000 on a exhaust or carbon fibre but take a sharp intake of breath when it means spending money on the bike suspension.

 

repooh, the 70-90 kg ideal rider weight is that just for the XC model? Or is it for the XC and XE? , I’ve weighed my self with all my riding gear on and I am bang on 90 kg and the big handles well for me as it is. Have you thought about trying to loose some weight off the bike itself? If you loose the standard mirrors & rear foot pegs that’s around 4 kg,if you could loose 10 kg off the bike plus if you lost some it may help.

 

I’m your weight Hawk , would love to know how you get on.

 

I was just thinking on this earlier this week. To start off I spent a bit of time out at my folks place and made a few laps over the back 40. Until last year this was wooded and overgrown farm land from my great grand parents cotton field days. My dad got a hair up his ass and bought a tractor and rented a dozer and flattened the few hills out there but there are still plenty of low rolling hills and ruts that are perfect for a lazy "off road" ride on the XE. The suspension settings from that video has my setup completely absorbing all bumps at low speeds, I haven't bottomed out once. Last week I took a drive out to the Appalachian mountains down this road that has horrifically bad buckles in the asphalt that killed my kidneys and lower back on my Indian Scout Bobber. I hit those same buckles at 45+ MPH and while I knew I went over them the suspension cleaned it out so other than a sharp buck there was none of the debilitating bottoming out of the shocks. I've also found a fondness for going over curbing in my neighborhood to get to my garage instead of coming down the drive (my wife is going to loose her mind if I keep riding over the lawn). Now I'm not jumping over any crazy dirt bike level hills but for my riding style/needs I am 100% happy with the stock suspension at my 6'2" 260 lbs old man body shape.

 

Great , I will dial in the same settings .
Thanks for the update Hawk.
Mark

 

I am 240lbs ( I know ‘Fat Bas**rd’ ) . I dialled in the settings from the utube clip ( well done Rebel ) ..... 14 clicks compression, 17 clicks rebound rear , ( both anti clockwise) and went for a ride. On shoddy English A and B roads the suspension worked a treat!
Really comfy for the hour’s riding , not affecting the handling .
Result

 

Crack on with option 1 my friend!!!!! and even if you still end up splashing out for some new kit (springs and riding gear for your new slim frame) it'll be worth it!!!!!
End of Jan I was 95.2kgs (2.2lb per kilo) decided a diet was in order but really couldn't face starving and also being a bit of a Gym pervert I didn't want to feel weak during the diet. I started with the fasting malarky, limiting my eating to 8 hours and nothing but water the other 16, 8 of which I was snoring, so unless you stuff yourself stupid you cut a fair amount of calories. After a few weeks of that I started the 5/2 routine, so still sticking to 8hrs only for food but also two days a week (Mon & Tues for me) no more than 600 calories per day in the eating window. I'm now 79.8kgs a loss of 15.4kgs, still Gym (Home lockdown) so feeling strong, it's worked, plan another couple of kgs then I'll just drop the two days of 600 calories and stick to the 8 hr eating window apparently the sketch for this is do 6/1 and that's enough to keep a check on any slip-ups, obviously, you do need to try and be reasonably healthy, food-wise but as long as you keep off tons of sugar, chips, bread and gallons of beer it really is a steady way of dropping the notches on the belt.

 

Think I might have overdone it!!!!!!

 

I keep telling myself that if I drop 20lbs it will be the best upgrade I can get for my bike...

 

Not wishing to be rude but the late great Colin Chapman (Lotus) did comprehensively prove the advantages of “adding lightness” as far back as the 1960’s.

 

I'm no expert, so take my responses with a grain of salt..

The key word here is OPTIMALLY. Sure, a bike can pretty much run with almost ANY rider weight, the question is, will it ride/handle worth a damn.. Generally, riders won't care, or know any better.. They just throw a leg over and tool on down the road..

yup, pretty much ALL bikes are designed with a target rider weight range. Its not really possible to cover all weight ranges without other huge trade-offs.. The general answer is SPRINGS.. If you are outside the designed weight then the first thing you need is to put different springs on it.. Forks and shocks.. Rebuilding/valving should not be necessary. Sure, you can do that as well, but the real issue with getting correct sag are your springs.

This is the case for about 99% of all (non-harly/goldwing/cheapo) bikes ever made.. It is NORMAL to put rider weight appropriate springs on a bike if you are outside the normal rider design specs.

No, you just get new SPRINGS.. You don't need completely new shocks/forks or to even have then rebuilt.. All you need is new springs, straight or progressive (I generally prefer progressive), throw them on and then adjust your sag.. The only issue might be that the even the XC uses a pretty LONG spring that may be more difficult to find than shorter springs.

actually..... YES... Generally, unless you go the cruiser/old fat guy bike route that has some kind of pneumatic/magical suspension, you will have to change springs if you are outside designed weight params. And actually, the more that price goes towards a high performance machine the more you are going to have to do to tune it to you weight and riding style..

 

Heavy Load Springs – Scrambler 1200 XC/XE
£84.99
I have asked TEC what rider load they have they in mind ? I am 19 stone in leathers ..... if these give me the rear sag required , I’m in

Any one got any comments ? ( leave my girth out of it please ).

 

Nothing back from TEC parts yet ....... any of you guys making enquiries?

 

It says these are "25% uprated"

Hopefully, that means 70-90kg is upped to 87.5kg-112.5kg

It doesn't specify exactly what property is uprated, or what "uprated" means, so a bit hazy in engineering terms!

One reviewer says they're spot on for his 108kg, so almost certainly worth doing for less than a hundred quid.

Fingers crossed for you.

 

Many thanks 45james........ most helpful