New Speed Camera Information

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by David Cooper, Apr 30, 2020.

  1. David Cooper

    David Cooper Triumph Rocketeer.
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    There's a lot of opinions going around on these new UK speed cameras that seem to be popping up daily.

    Whilst there is still NO official data on the exact units being installed on our roads (due to the available customisable accessories) , there is some credible information detailing their basic capabilities.

    Hopefully this information will debunk many of the opinions and comments floating around, that lack research or reference to any credible source/facts.

    The larger unit being replaced, now contains two high powered digital zoom lenses, offering 3D HQD image capture. The slot underneath is the strobe. (this larger unit resembles a face, two eyes and mouth). It's important to note that the high powered zoom lenses are capable of capturing vehicle data at considerably further distances than the previous cameras. One source of information states up to 15x the distance than previously. For many of us, that's further than we can see them, by which time it would have already captured your details.

    The smaller unit next to it has many abilities [​IMG]https://www.roadtraffic-technology.com/…/redflex-traffic-s…/ also known as Vector or SPEC, this records your registration number using ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) and can identify if the vehicle has no mot, tax or insurance as well as identifying if the vehicle has been flagged for previous offences, such as drugs, weapons etc. It can manage red light offences and has the ability to add further functions, one being a utility camera to record incidents such as RTC or altercations between motorists etc.

    The cameras operate in both directions, assuming you have two number plates! Be mindful however that the cameras are placed on routes in alternating directions.

    The main cameras may also have facial recognition (unconfirmed but highly probable based on the quality and zoom capability of the cameras) and are able to communicate with traffic units nearby via the main control centre. An alert sounds on the patrol vehicles on board computer, much like ANPR does now and provides clear HD images of the vehicle and possibly driver along with recorded speed and direction of travel

    The most concerning information for many, is that they also act as an average speed camera, logging your registration onto the national database, then comparing your speed between two or three other similar cameras in the area, which are being installed in their hundreds across the country. Something most people won't be aware of, as the Department of Transport don't actively inform motorists. It's a case of, wait till you get caught.

    This not a conspiracy post, it's merely to make people aware of the possible potential of this new equipment to avoid unnecessary penalties. For many, it won't concern them if they abide by the law.

    However, I'm sure everyone is guilty at some point of committing a road traffic offence, even if it was just 3mph over the speed limit! Hopefully they may begin with lettered warnings for minor breaches but we will see many £100 fines and 3 points handed out by the truckload in the future for sure.

    It is unconfirmed if the all the new cameras will be as visible as the previous Gatso style cameras, which displayed the yellow square (the one pictured has been painted yellow but only from the rear). However, they are quite large and cumbersome, so can be spotted relatively easy if you have your eyes peeled

    Lastly, the cameras seem to be appearing in random locations. As well as the old units receiving the upgrade, many more new units are being installed in new areas across the country, which, could catch motorists by surprise.

    Stay safe and remember, big brother is watching you!

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  2. Oldfart

    Oldfart Senior Member

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    FFS!!

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  3. Carl556

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    So In a nutshell ??
     
  4. Flay

    Flay Well-Known Member

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    And if that is successful, you find that you then have to pay a lot of sweetners to your local AK47 wielding warlord and his friends. They don't accept cheques.
     
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  5. Gladtobebackontwowheels

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    Anyone fancy making up a guerrilla group with some plastic explosive?
     
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  6. Gladtobebackontwowheels

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    Well that's me tagged at MI6 I guess.....
     
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  7. Gladtobebackontwowheels

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    I hope they enjoy Pornhub. :yum
     
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  8. bob1

    bob1 Noble Member

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    not a bad ideal ripping of the number plate its the same offence as having a small number plate £100 fine no points
     
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  9. OsteKuste

    OsteKuste Intergalactic Warlord
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    In my home state in the US, Tennessee, they have banned stand-alone speed cameras. The only cameras still up are traffic cameras at signal lights. These only issue a civil. citation which cannot reflect on your license points, insurance, and cannot be reported to credit for nonpayment. Essentially if you know this and get a nasty-gram in the mail you can tell them to feck off and toss it in the trash. They can’t collect, will send a few threatening letters, and can’t do a thing. They are relying on scaring people into paying.
     
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  10. johne

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    Speed cameras (sorry safety cameras) always polarise views when people discuss them. As someone who has never been 'done' by one, I hate the f***king things. I don't think they improve safety one jot, but of course thats just my opinion. As long ago as the early noughties, there was a fixed camera on the M62 near Ferrybridge, through a roadworks section where the speed was limited to 50 mph for over a year it was there. I think it made the papers at the time for the first camera of its type to generate over £1 million in fines. I used to commute that way to work every day and most of the time there were no workers 'to protect' but of course the camera kept clicking away 24/7. Its true, if you don't break the limit you've got nothing to worry about, but who here can honestly hold their hands up and say they've never gone over the limit....ever?
     
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  11. Tiglet

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    #11 Tiglet, May 1, 2020
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    Don’t understand some of you lot :worried:

    Over the last few weeks there’s been people on here complaining about cars/vans speed all over the place and then when peeps go out themselves they get pull for speeding etc :eek:

    If you get pulled for speeding or what ever grow some balls and admit you were in the wrong :bomb:





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  12. OsteKuste

    OsteKuste Intergalactic Warlord
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    I’m just saying I’m an adult and don’t need a nanny state spending tax money to wipe my arse and make me do the right thing. Most of these cameras do nothing for public safety, like having the presence of a living breathing officer would. A camera just collects revenue, an officer has opportunity to actually help someone in need. In the town nearest me they originally put up two speed traps and immediately fired two officers stating the cameras would provide adequate public safety. Tell that to the mum with kids in the car who has a breakdown and no one to call.
     
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  13. Tiglet

    Tiglet Vintage Member

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    Whether cameras just collect revenue or not that’s not the point of my post.

    One week we have peeps off here complaining about cars/vans flying around at excessive speed in the UK then when they go out on the road by the sounds of it they do just the same and then if they got caught complain.
     
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  14. stinger

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    Speed cameras are just a tax, there is no evading this fact. When they were introduced the Chief constables stated that they were not a replacement for traffic officers, just another tool. They reasoned that they could never replace traffic officers as they are trained to look for things other than plain speeding such as drug / drunk driving.
    Fast forward to the present day, 2 reports out this year (stats from 2018, freedom of information requests by Dick Lovett)..
    Number of speeding tickets issued in each UK region
    1. Avon and Somerset Constabulary: 163,784
    2. West Mercia Police: 90,203
    3. Hampshire Constabulary: 73,220
    4. Northumbria Police: 68,552
    5. Kent Police: 64,179
    6. West Yorkshire Police: 61,623
    7. West Midlands Police: 57,394
    8. Warwickshire Police: 53,894
    9. Humberside Police: 53,628
    10. Cheshire Constabulary: 53,000
    11. Staffordshire Police: 48,634
    12. Sussex Police: 48,335
    13. Police Scotland: 47,948
    14. Leicestershire Constabulary: 41,898
    15. Cumbria Constabulary: 39,760
    16. Essex Police: 32,706
    17. Surrey Police: 30,161
    18. Nottinghamshire Police: 23,797
    19. Lancashire Constabulary: 21,190
    20. North Wales Police: 20,404
    21. Durham Constabulary: 19,838
    22. Devon and Cornwall Police: 17,535
    23. South Wales Police: 15,443
    24. South Yorkshire Police: 15,134
    25. Derbyshire Constabulary: 12,302
    26. Cleveland Police: 11,924
    27. Merseyside Police: 10,529
    28. Dyfed-Powys Police: 1,677
    29. Hertfordshire Constabulary: 992
    30. Cambridgeshire Constabulary: 687
    31. Wiltshire Police: 657
    32. Bedfordshire Police: 254
    33. Gwent Police: 135
    This is actual tickets issued rather than a similar statistic published of speeding offences detected (A&S is over 199,000 of those)

    Guess how many of the 163,784 Avon and Somerset tickets were issued by an actual Police Officer.........
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    That is correct, not one.
    You can pretty much assume that the vast majority of them were issued on the M5 / M4 interchange where there is a section of "smart" motorway. Having had to commute through there for a while it always struck me that four or five signs saying 60mph, then one saying 50mh, then back to 60mph with no apparent reason cannot be accidental. This happened most days of the week.
     
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  15. Tiglet

    Tiglet Vintage Member

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    If you don’t want to pay the tax, don’t get caught. Simples
     
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  16. stinger

    stinger Senior Member

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    Firmly touching my table, i have never had a speeding fine, points or awareness course in 39 years of drving / riding ;)
     
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  17. Gladtobebackontwowheels

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    You must be Richard Brunstrom's bastard love child.
     
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  18. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    It is true that using speed camera does polaries opinion. For me it is simple, they do slow drivers/riders down and so imo do improve safety on the roads. It is easy if you are driving/riding in an unfamiliar location to get caught out, but the simple answer is pay attention and drive/ride within the limits. If you don't you have to accept the consequences ....

    Edit: On the street where I live speeding is an every day occurance. On the very rare instances that the police do come and check using a speed gun, you get very few if any speeding cars....
     
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  19. Tiglet

    Tiglet Vintage Member

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    Statement issued today by Greater Manchester Police:
    Greater Manchester Police have warned of speeders ''using the quieter roads as their own personal racetrack" after a motorist drove at 115mph on a 40mph road.

    How can anyone condone that sort of driving/riding.
     
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  20. Tiglet

    Tiglet Vintage Member

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    Bet that took some thought :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:
     
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