S3 2008 Won't Start

Discussion in 'Speed Triple' started by wilkie, Apr 9, 2020.

  1. freck

    freck Elite Member

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    Yep, it is possible especially as it's only a 5A fuse.
     
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  2. Paul Mac

    Paul Mac Member

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    I wouldn't think that a duff relay would blow the fuse as the coil circuit doesn't run off the 5a fuse . the relay is basically only connecting two contacts together so it either has a contact or it hasn't . You really need to disconnect the fuel pump and see if the fuse still blows as according to the wiring diagram the 5a fuse feeds a purple wire which realistically only supplies the fuel pump , immobilizer, and a 12v wire to the clocks . It could be a fault inside the immobilizer but I'm not sure if you can bypass the S4 datatool , I've done the S3 on a Daytona 600 and that was pretty easy
     
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  3. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    Thanks I'll try some of that, the thing is, when I first tried starting her the pump was priming and you could smell fuel when it was cranking?
    Now you can't smell fuel and no priming?
     
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  4. Paul Mac

    Paul Mac Member

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    #24 Paul Mac, Apr 18, 2020
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2020
    Basically ,as I've stated , the best thing to do to take the fuel pump out of the equation is to disconnect it and see if the fuse still blows . You could then run 12v direct to the pump , the purple wire is 12v+ , the black 12v- , that would tell you if the pump is functioning properly . FWIW I might be leading you in the complete wrong direction but not having the bike in front of me I can only give so much advice on a forum
    Just been on you tube and it's piss easy to bypass the S4 alarm
     
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  5. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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  6. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    Thanks mate, I'll have a look at that
     
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  7. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    As Paul Mac says confirm or eliminate the pump first, the 5A blowing fuse gives you a trail to follow. If the pump proves to be ok I'd look at the alarm next, you should be able to remove it from the system by reinstating the original jumper plug at the connector in place of the alarm, see my earlier post on another thread here.
    Link to the plug is now out of date so try here or here
     
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  8. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    I've got one of these plugs in my bag of goodies that came with the bike, where does it plug in?
    Thanks
     
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  9. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    Should see a connector under the seat, follow cable from the alarm to the connector, unplug the alarm and put the looped plug in its place.
     
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  10. SprinterII

    SprinterII Noble Member

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    What else is on that fuse?
     
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  11. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    I've got one of these plugs in my bag of goodies that came with the bike, where does it plug in?
    Thanks
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  12. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    Position 1
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  13. SprinterII

    SprinterII Noble Member

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    I would be checking those wires for breaks cuts nicks that short and blow the fuse.
     
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  14. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    Yeah, looks like I'll be pulling it out into the garden and strip down and go through everything, I can't see how the alarm would cause the fuse to blow? But I will be doing away with it, it's a pain
     
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  15. SprinterII

    SprinterII Noble Member

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    One thing at a time.
     
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  16. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    Alarm first, makes everything easier
     
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  17. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    I'll probably wait for a nice day now, plus back on shift tomorrow night, but I'm sitting here thinking and realise that these electrical problems didn't start until after I used the diagnostic connector, which is on a fuse with alarm and instruments, the fuse that blows is also marked instruments? This sort of shit drives yer mad
     
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  18. Adie P

    Adie P Crème de la Crème

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    Sooo o o ..... you HAVE checked the connector for bent/crossed pins, haven't you? ;)
     
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  19. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    Come on, what do you take me for?......no I haven't
     
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  20. wilkie

    wilkie Member

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    Are you talking about the diagnostic connector on the bike? It's female?
     
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