New Bonnie in the shedprevious

Discussion in 'Bonneville' started by Antioch Knight, Nov 21, 2015.

  1. Antioch Knight

    Antioch Knight New Member

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    #1 Antioch Knight, Nov 21, 2015
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    hello to all I just parked my first Bonnie in the shed and she's a beaut, 904cc Norman Hyde conversion Sai removal stubby exhaust and a bellmouth.

    I had a dyno readout from the previous owner and I have to say a little disappointed at only 62 Hp @ 7000 rpm

    Could anyone advise if this is what I should expect and how to go about getting more

    The airbox is stock with a bellmouth & KN filter should I go for a eliminator kit?

    It would be great to get your insight
     
  2. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi AK, it seems to me like the first thing you should do is to take out the bellmouth and filter and then take it for a ride. It should feel like revs more freely.

    In my opinion 62bhp dyno result seems to disappoint but bare in mind that the dyno result shows power at the back wheel whereas the manufacturers power figures are always given 'at the crank'. Just to show the difference : an 865cc fi engine has a mfrs power figure 67bhp (from memory) whereas it will have a dyno 'at the wheel' of perhaps 58 bhp. Transmission losses account for the difference, in broad terms.

    The other thing to consider is that if you take the same bike and put it on 3 different dyno's you will get 3 different max. bhp figures - due to the differing dyno configurations. Dyno runs are not really there for providing single figure outputs - they are there to provide 'before and after' numbers, to show the effects of engine modifications.
     
  3. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    Big bore conversions tend to only give you more torque and thats no bad thing on a bike, to get the most from it you would have to fit a better cam and up the compression ratio.
     
  4. Antioch Knight

    Antioch Knight New Member

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    Thanks for the initial comments, to clarify

    2006 790cc bike
    904cc kit
    Gas flow and cylinder skim
    K&N filter
    Bellmouth snorkel replacement
    Sai removed
    2-1 stubby exhaust system (can not see o2 sensors)
    18t sprocket

    This is everything I either have a receipt for or can see

    What Hp should I expect?
    What would you do beyond the list above to make more?

    Don't drink or smoke so have a little saved to improve the Bonnie
     
  5. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    I would go for new cams and a pair of 36mm Mikuni flat slide carbs :)
     
  6. Antioch Knight

    Antioch Knight New Member

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    Bought the air box eliminator kit to install today so hopefully that will help the bike breath easier and increase Hp, no makers mark on the stubby exhaust so I'm not entirely sure. Does sound fab though
     
  7. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    You'll definitely need to check your carburation if you remove the airbox as there will be loads more air going into the motor.
     
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  8. Antioch Knight

    Antioch Knight New Member

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    Me thinks I need proffesional help I was confident with the airbox removal and semi confident in changing the jets but I have no idea how to adjust the carburettor (is there an idiots guide to Bonnies somewhere)
     
  9. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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  10. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    that's a good one Steve
     
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  11. Antioch Knight

    Antioch Knight New Member

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  12. Bob Chambers

    Bob Chambers Member

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    Not sure why folks get so hung up on horsepower numbers. Is the bike fun to ride?
    Guys who want "just a little bit more" tend to never be satisfied.
    (Bikes & life!)
     
  13. Antioch Knight

    Antioch Knight New Member

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    Valid point Bob though I always like to tinker and think it's all part of bike ownership (a forum would be a dull place if we all discussed our stock (exactly the same) bikes.

    I was only originally enquiring because the lady owner spent a small fortune having the 904 conversion done for (on paper) little increase in power .

    The bike is fantastic fun and I got of a 140hp RSV Mille for my Bonnie so i no longer require break neck speed and power, like most men I just want a little more
     
  14. Bob Chambers

    Bob Chambers Member

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    Don't blame you there. I've modded every bike I've owned, mostly cosmetic, lights, & functional items. The only engine mods I've ever really felt necessary were things to improve breathing & get a bit more noise/MPG. If I upped the HP in the course of it , all the better!
     
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