Thruxton Cornering Limits - Feedback

Discussion in 'Thruxton, Scrambler & Trident' started by Dave Roxburgh, Jul 16, 2019.

  1. Dave Roxburgh

    Dave Roxburgh Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm. OK. So this is a weird question, I know.

    The thing is, on all my other bikes I've had a feel for where the cornering limits are - the front goes vague, the back squirms or even starts to move. You know the sort of thing - you just get a feel for it and you know that's the limit, right there.

    I've only done 500 miles on the Thruxton R but I'm just not getting that kind of feedback. The chicken-line on my back wheel is now down to 8mm or so and I still haven't got the warning that I'm at the limit.

    Is this down to high-spec tyres or high-spec suspension?

    More importantly, does it give the usual kind of warnings or does it just let go suddenly? Obviously, I hope no-one has found out the hard way that it just lets go without warning!!! But I'm just a bit bewildered and a bit concerned - I'm feeling real confident riding the thing but I'm starting to wonder if I'm being led into over-confidence by the bike's handling characteristics if that makes sense. It could be that it just doesn't give feedback the way all my other bikes have (with their cheap tyres and standard suspension!!).

    When I look at the chicken-line on the back tyre I have to agree with the girlfriend - I need to back off a bit!! But it really doesn't feel like that at the time.

    Dave
     
  2. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Dave, when your tyres are higher than your knees, that’s when you’ve gone too far
     
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  3. Kiwidave4

    Kiwidave4 Well-Known Member

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    If I am reading you right you have 8mm of tread that has not touched the road. I am an old man with a Thruxton S who has no interest in finding the limit of adhesion and I have about 8mm of virgin tread too - so to answer your question you are riding like an old man!:)

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  4. Bryf

    Bryf Guest

    Your bike is fitted with Pirelli Rosso Corsa tyres which are top class, once you've got a bit of heat in them you should happily (and safely) be able to use the full tyre with no feeling of loss of grip etc, as well as this your bike is equipped with a fantastic suspension system. You will know you hit your limits when you start to ground your blobs. In saying all that, you are better to ride to the limits of your own personal confidence levels, which with this bike will likely get to a higher level over the months to come. Enjoy and ride safe.
     
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  5. Ken walburn

    Ken walburn Noble Member

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    Hi Dave, I to have Thruxton R, I found the Pirelli tyres to be let’s say, average until optimum temperature achieved, then they performed really well, albeit they do not last long at all. Like Andy C, I put Michelin RS tyres on it. Much better. As far a lean angles are concerned, I think you would be hard pushed to get right over onto the edge of the tyre on the ‘R’. If you are scrubbing to 8mm from the edge, I think you are enjoying your riding. My advice. Bin the Pirelli’s once past 4K, mine became very skittish front & rear.
     
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  6. Bryf

    Bryf Guest

    Got to disagree, you wouldn't be "hard pushed" at all to use the full tyre, its all about confidence I have a new Speed Twin with the same tyres, (size and make) but equipped with a much lesser suspension system than your lovely beast, and by the way I am certainly no hero, but comfortably utilise the full rubber on the rear as I have done with all my bikes. I do agree however that whether you use the full tyre or not is of absolutely no consequence, as long as you are fully enjoying your riding experiences. I personally have run Pirelli's as a preference for years and always found them excellent, (apart from one small recent glitch which seems to have rectified itself).
    Anyway no disrespect meant, that's just how it is for me and how I see things, wishing you long and happy riding.
     
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  7. 2Fast

    2Fast Thrux ton-up

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    Hi & welcome.

    "The chicken-line on my back wheel is now down to 8mm or so and I still haven't got the warning that I'm at the limit." - Because you're not is the simple answer!

    The Thrux R has fantastic cornering ability - just enjoy riding it! The more you do, the more your confidence and feel for the bike will grow and in turn the more tyre profile you'll be using, when you need new pegs you've probably found the limit!! :p
     
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  8. Glyn Phillips

    Glyn Phillips Old’N’Slow

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    I’m close to the edge with th ‘S’ without any issues

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  9. Glyn Phillips

    Glyn Phillips Old’N’Slow

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    Dave, what have you changed to use the ABBA stand
    ?
     
  10. Ken walburn

    Ken walburn Noble Member

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    Hooligan! If it’s not too much of a personal question, how much do you weigh? Tell me to mind my own, that’ll be fine o_O
     
  11. Glyn Phillips

    Glyn Phillips Old’N’Slow

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    #10 Glyn Phillips, Jul 17, 2019
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    At present 15 stone 10 pounds but can go up quite quickly depending on beer intake:p
    Definitely not a hooligan the old an slow tag is spot on​
     
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  12. Kiwidave4

    Kiwidave4 Well-Known Member

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    I had the ABBA for my VTR so was reluctant to get rid of it when I got the Thruxton. The only mod to the bike is removal of the left heel guard bracket. This is not essential, but if left on you have to remove the left hand foot peg. As I wanted to delete the heel guards this was not a big thing. On the right it is just a matter of taking off the sprocket cover to access the swing arm pivot.

    To make the ABBA stand fit I modified a cheap 1/2" drive socket to fit the right side of the swing arm pivot, and turned a few thou off the left hand spigot.

    The photos were taken when I first did the mod so the left hand foot peg is hanging in the breeze!

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  13. Glyn Phillips

    Glyn Phillips Old’N’Slow

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    Good to know , I’ve been using the ABBA footrest removal kit but it’s a pain in the neck
     
  14. Kiwidave4

    Kiwidave4 Well-Known Member

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    I thought a footpeg removal kit was a socket and ratchet! If I could find a place to put a rad overflow tank - and a suitable tank - I would cut up the 'sprocket cover' so I did not need to remove it - and also delete the inner, steel sprocket cover.
     
  15. Glyn Phillips

    Glyn Phillips Old’N’Slow

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    #14 Glyn Phillips, Jul 18, 2019
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    No, you take 1 bolt out of each footrest and bolt these through it

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  16. Kiwidave4

    Kiwidave4 Well-Known Member

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    We seem to have hijacked this thread Glyn! Dont want to sound immodest but I think my solution is better than ABBAs! They seem to have a fixation with not removing anything to fit the stand. Only takes a minute to pull off the sprocket cover with I dont find to be a hardship.
     
  17. Glyn Phillips

    Glyn Phillips Old’N’Slow

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    #16 Glyn Phillips, Jul 19, 2019
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    To be fair it’s only 1 bolt out of either footrest.i know I said it’s a pain but only because every other bike I’ve had only requires fittings pushed straight in.
    Although I would like a permanent solution but I think I’ll stick with the footrest kit
     
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