Ever heard of tyre cupping/scalloping?

Discussion in 'Tyres' started by folkbloke, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. folkbloke

    folkbloke Well-Known Member

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    There's a thread over at Triumphrat about "tire cupping".

    I had to look it up as I'd never heard the term before. When I found out what it was I also realised that I'd never knowingly seen it happen to any bike or car tyre I've had over 40 years of riding and driving. I was in the pub last night with a bunch of guys who have all been driving/riding for as long as I have and none of them had heard the term or seen it happen.

    A search for "TYRE" cupping only seems to return links related to "TIRE" cupping and nothing originating over here.

    So, have any of you chaps any experience of it?
     
  2. roadtrip

    roadtrip Member

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    didn't think you'd get it on a bike ... you'd need to always ride upright, so maybe some American riders could do it riding on highways all the time.

    I think you get it on a rear wheel drive car, on the rear wheels when you use a lot of power and generally on straight roads, and the centre tread wears away so that it actually dips in the middle of the tread.
     
  3. folkbloke

    folkbloke Well-Known Member

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    I might have it wrong but I don't think a dip in the middle of the tread is what cupping is. One site described it as "cupped tires are tires that appear to have little scoops taken out of them. They're also called "scalloped" tires -- like scalloped potatoes"

    There are dozens of threads on other bike and car forums about the issue but I've never seen it on a British forum so I wondered what is it the Merkans do that's different o_O
     
  4. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Well my back tyre is what I would call "cupped" but it doesn't fit the description above.

    It came about when I fitted new rear suspension and the improvement was soooooo great that I went for a really hoooning ride on my favourite set of bends.

    When I stopped at a café for a drink, my pal said your back tyre looks a bit 'funny'. Upon examination the leading edges of the sipes on the outer edges (right and left 30%) of the tyre had risen above the rest of the tyre. No problem at all in the middle of the tyre.

    When you run your hand over them it almost feels like a series of cutting edges you get with an electric plane.

    They've pretty-much stayed like that for the last 3 months with no bad handling or problems, they just look weird.

    Apparently this can be caused by the tyre being under-inflated (not any more, keeping a very close eye on pressure now).

    Dave

    PS New back tyre being fitted next week.
     
  5. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Looking on the internet - most of the references to tyre cupping seems to be spelt "tire" - is it just an American problem? Appears to be caused by a number of factors working together, weak suspension system such as bad struts and loose ball joints, wheel bearings, shock absorbers, springs or bushings. Additional factors include under-inflated or out-of-balance tyres or improper wheel alignment. More of a car than a bike thing perhaps?
     
  6. folkbloke

    folkbloke Well-Known Member

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    Dave, that sounds like the descriptions of tyre cupping that I've read although I've never seen it on any of my bikes or cars. Interesting as you think it was due to undr-inflation and thats what Steve mentions in his post.

    Perhaps it's not just an American problem Steve but it's odd that we don't seem to get the same issues here and it's only American websites that are reporting it.
     
  7. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    I've never heard of it but I'll throw this in, as it doesn't seem to happen here IN UK could iit be related to tyre pressures and hot Tarmac?
     
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  8. Dave S

    Dave S New Member

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    I've never seen it here either, but I read about it on American forums. It's possible it's also caused by their tyres or even tires being harder, some of my friends out there get over 70000 out of a set of car tyres or are they tires ?
    Perhaps that's it only tires cup.
     
  9. folkbloke

    folkbloke Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's all a bit odd isn't it?

    Maybe it's the spelling that's the issue. If they started to spel fings proppa like I wonder if it would go away ;)
     
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  10. roadtrip

    roadtrip Member

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    like everone else on here haven't come across the cupping the Americans are talking about. Obv. I got it wrong about centre tread wearing so there's a dip going round the middle, anyone know what that's called? ... apart from wearing in the middle!
     
  11. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Most peeps around here call that 'flatting' - yes flatting, not farting.
     
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