Bluetooth Headset

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  1. Biker Jock

    Biker Jock Senior Member

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    #1 Biker Jock, Feb 5, 2015
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    I have just bought myself a TomTom SatNav for a trip to Europe in a couple of months. I've never felt the need for one in the UK - I kinda know my way around. But now I need a Bluetooth headset to hear directions.

    The key points are:

    - must pair with my gps (of course :) ) - I won't use any other options (phone calls, music or intercom)
    - I will probably only use it for trips into Europe, so I don't want to pay a fortune (skinflint)
    - suitable for a full-face helmet (Shoei GT Air)

    Thank you for any suggestions.
     
  2. PeteH

    PeteH Active Member

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    Mates got the Sena smh10 and rates it highly, not cheap tho. Check out revzilla as the do loads of tests on different gear
     
  3. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    I use an Interphone F5, it connects to my Garmin, you can listen to music and connect up to for other riders. Used mine for about 3 years now with no issues.
     
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  4. Biker Jock

    Biker Jock Senior Member

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    Thanks for the suggestions, but a little more (lot more actually) than I want to spend. I'm thinking about the Sena 3S-w, which has fewer bells and whistles (described as 'entry level'), but is also a bit less of a dent in my bank account.

    Anyone using the 3S-w or 3S-b, especially with a TomTom Rider?
     
  5. Biker Jock

    Biker Jock Senior Member

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    I went for the Sena 3S-W, which has a tiny, unobtrusive unit that sticks to the outside of the helmet. It was simple to fit to my Shoei GT Air, and paired easily (after I read the relevant instruction) with my TomTom Rider V5. Cost of the headset was £81 including postage.

    Job done and I'm ready to go touring...
     
  6. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Hi Jock let us know how you get on with it
     
  7. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Just as a general observation it does concern me that bikers are starting to adopt the mentality of cage drivers when it comes to technology - why would you want anything going on in your helmet other than an alert and focussed brain?

    It starts off with TomTom directions and before you know it, you'll be listening to music and following that taking phone calls.

    It's a slippery slope guys..........................................



    descending from high horse
     
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  8. Biker Jock

    Biker Jock Senior Member

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    I agree to a large extent, biglad, and my intention is not to use the gps and headset for normal everyday riding or touring in the UK. I can pretty much get from one end of the UK to the other without needing a computer telling me the route to take. And I certainly won't be listening to music (I rarely do in the car).

    But I think being lost when you have to be somewhere in a foreign land is very stressful. I have experienced that a few times in the USA and in Europe, while driving. As a newby at touring abroad on a bike, I don't want that additional stress if there is a tool to help. As a friend advised, you can do it the old way - lost in the pouring rain, at the side of the road with a disintegrating map, trying to get un-lost, or you can use a satnav.

    I took the satnav (now christened Jane) and headset for a test ride today. It seems pretty good to me. I set the volume so it wasn't too loud at sub-30 mph speeds where there is little wind noise, and I could still hear it well enough at 70 and slightly above. The Shoei GT Air is new to me and it seems not too noisy at that speed. Much above 70 (allegedly), and I would need to click the volume up a touch to catch every word.

    So, I think it won't be much of a distraction and it will reduce stress levels (a big distraction), providing it does its job reliably. That should allow me to focus on riding safely. I will prepare for each leg of the journey with a map, so I should have a good idea where I'm going. I won't go blind and just rely on Jane.
     
  9. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi BJ I wasn't having a pop at you honestly. It's just that the latest serious road injury and death stats are just out and the leading contributor to these figures is the use of mobile phone based technology - people taking call and texts etc -whilst driving.

    More serious that drink and drugs related now, apparently.
     
  10. Biker Jock

    Biker Jock Senior Member

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    No, I didn't take it as a pop at me. I suppose the reason I replied to your general comment was that I kinda feel the same way, but thought on balance a gps would be less distracting than getting lost. I did want to avoid paying for one that answers phones and plays music because I would never use these features.

    I definitely agree about mobile phones & texting while driving - a big no-no for me.
     
  11. folkbloke

    folkbloke Well-Known Member

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    I've had many an argument over the years about headsets in helmets. Perhaps (or despite) being a musician I won't listen to music when I'm on the bike as I'd find it too distracting.

    I'm a bit of a dinosaur really and see my time on the bike as my personal escape from technology so no music, phones or bluetooth.

    Can't say that many of my biking friends agree with me though...
     
  12. roadrider

    roadrider First Class Member

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    I've always stayed away from these sort of things.I tried riding with an i pod in and found it far to distracting.
    But after leading a group in France,trying to read the road signs and the sat nav,watching out for traffic and making sure everyone got through it did get a bit frantic at times.
    After a trip in the boss's car with the sat nav talking I thought it would make life easier
     
  13. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    For travelling through France all need you is a short list on paper in the top of your tank bag window, that you can glance at from time to time, such as :

    "leave A20 at junc 21 - N145 to Gueret,
    then D941 direction La Châtre for 25kms" etc etc etc.

    I would argue that GPS systems are not really viable at all for motorbikes. The screen is too small and too low down to be easy to read (unlike in a car). I much prefer using laminated waterproof maps.
     
  14. folkbloke

    folkbloke Well-Known Member

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    Although I agree that a list can be useful (if you have anywhere to put it) on main routes the sat-nav comes into its own in towns and when you have a series of small roads to navigate.

    My Zumo is perfectly readable and has successfully got me through Montpellier to the obscure back street where we were renting an apartment. It also took me directly to gites and hotels in various towns across France, Switzerland and Spain (not to mention routes through some English towns).

    I could go without it but it makes life so less stressful when riding in unfamiliar locations.
     
  15. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Not made up my mind about this yet - have had one in the car for years but so far resisted one on the bike as I simply haven't needed one. Off to Germany in June so thinking about it again, although this will be the third time to the same place so know the way.
    Bought some German maps last time I was there "Tourenkarten fur Motorradfahrer" (touring maps for motorcycling). They are laminated and have all the points of interest marked for bikers. ie. where bikers meet on certain days, biker friendly cafes and bars etc. Hoping to manage with these - besides a sat nav doesn't look right on a Bonnie!
     
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  16. folkbloke

    folkbloke Well-Known Member

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    #16 folkbloke, Feb 25, 2015
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    I was dismissive of them for many years until I finally gave in and bought a Garmin Quest in 2006 after getting hopelessly lost in Heidelberg looking for the hotel I had booked then doing the same in a town near the Austrian border. Trying to read a map, fight the one way system and watch for traffic and trams left me exhausted!

    I have a Zumo now and although on the longer journeys it just sits there watching my speed and clocking up the miles as I don't use it for routing it's worth its weight in gold when I have to navigate towns or smaller roads.

    It's also useful as a more accurate speedo and for obsessive characters like me who like to know how far they've travelled, top speed, average speed, and average moving time (sad git that I am). It'll also track where I've been when I'm in back road mode with no fixed route. And invaluable when you need to find the nearest petrol station.

    I am both geek and technophobe. I don't have a smartphone or use bluetooth or apps and my digital camera is 10 years old but I love gadgets like sat-navs and hi-tech computer recording software.

    Takes all sorts I guess ;)
     
  17. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    I completely agree with the value of GPS for finding your way around strange towns to locate a hotel, especially at night and in the rain. Just don't feel the need when just travelling. I sometimes find that I get lost - but find interesting places and people as a result. It's the journey not necessarily the destination that's important to me, if you follow?
     
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