Tubed Or Tubeless?

I dont know about on your bike but something to be aware of is ....

Some off road trials bikes have tubeless rear wheels with a conventional spoked rim.
DO NOT DISTURB THE RIM TAPE!

If you do they are an absolute pain and certainly not something I'd like to tackle at the side of the road. The tape edges sit in a step and this has to be perfect both all the way around and on both edges. Naturally the tape is slightly too wide in order to create a seal.

 

The tyres on my thruxton are marked tubeless but I know mine are tubed, it’s a 2011 spoked wheel, I always thought spoked was tubed but maybe on new fangled motosickles they’ve changed things

 

Well there’s an arguement here, tubeless repair kits are easy to use, don’t need removing wheels etc but a hole in some areas can’t be repaired whereas a tubed tyre although needs to have the wheel removed if you have a spare tube can mean any puncture can be repaired, you can also patch the tube, it does mean you have to carry the necessary tools too

 

yurp! But I’m assuming temporary repair to get you to a place where proper repairs or replacement can be done, ie a plug isn’t recommended on a shoulder or wall of a tyre whereas with a new tube it wouldn’t matter. Plus if there’s an actual rip in the wall, say, you’re buggered with a tubeless but not necessarily with a tube. You don’t need to create a perfect seal between tyre and rim either. Between the two of us I think we’ve helped confuse flyby even more

 

You can get small compressors that fit in small places, the tubeless repair kits have small canisters that inflate the tyre, but not sure how good they are

 

Tubeless tyre means it can run without a tube on an appropriate wheel where the bead will create an air-tight seal, as on e.g. Street Twin alloy rims. The bead will not seal on chrome rims asfaik so though a tubeless tyre will fit, it will still need a tube to keep the air in. There are gloop type stuff puncture repair kits you can carry to get-you-home safe in the event of a puncture. There's also stuff you can fill your tube with beforehand which will create a seal in the event of a puncture, but some folk reckon these adversely affect the rolling characteristics of the tyre, especially the front, or so I've been told by a chap who sells the stuff.

btw, I haven't read the rest of this thread so may be repeating old news.

 

Not entirely sure I agree here.
Tubeless tyres have diagonal ribs inside whereas tubed tyres are relatively smooth.
I was once told that these ribs can rub tubes thin and create punctures, not sure how true this is though hence my opening line.

Spoke holes:
My Beta trials bike has a T shape rear rim and the spokes end at the rib i.e no holes drilled into inner tube area.
Montesa 315's from 1999 had similar and I can't understand why everyone didn't adopt the idea as it's far better.

 

Also Flybywyre you could do with seeing the rim profile. A tubeless rim has a step on the inner edge of the tyre lip to aid sealing.
A tube type rim doesn't have this additional step as it isn't required.
If the tyre HAD to come off at the side of the road AND it does have this lip then you really will struggle without the right tools.

If the areas to be visited are truly remote then I would spend time at home getting to know your bike.
Here is my 500 mile old 765 undergoing scrutiny lol

 

Exactly that DD.
Like I said, I don't know whether what I heard is correct in practice or not just providing info to give Flybywyre a fuller picture.

 

Wash your mouth out with soap immediately

 

Flybywyre you can carry the right tools. In the good old days, read me when younger, enduro riders and greenlaners used to do it all the time.

I once did a big jump in Dalby forest snapping a rear spoke and puncturing the tube during an enduro. It cost me 13 minutes to repair (replace tube, had one in bum bag) by the time I got to next time check.

A few important points here,
1/ I had a spare tube with me ( others could fit it for you but can't if you havent).
2/ I knew the bike and what needed to be done (refer to my previous post, get it in bits at home. Don't learn last minute).
3/ I had the minimum but right tools with me (avoid carrying excess but have the right versatile minimum for common tasks. Do a trial with what you propose to carry).