T100 Throttle Response

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  1. Richard James Malik

    Richard James Malik New Member

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    Hi, I have just gone from a BMW f800r to 2018 T100. I've only ridden around the block due to the terrible weather i just needed to try it briefly Im finding the throttle really sharp and lumpy. Not a fair trial I know and I'm quite prepared to take the blame.
    Does this sound like user error,, I have seen few videos mentioning that some T120s can be a bit sharp at low revs.
     
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  2. Eastbournemark

    Eastbournemark Proud Snowflake

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    Hi Richard
    I found the booster plug sorted my T120 low speed throttle response out. Fairly cheap, easy to install.
    https://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/t...he-power-just-plug-and-play--enjoy-4687-p.asp
    Mark
     
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  3. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Snatching is a feature of lean fuelling to meet emissions regs. A Booster plug will give you a 90% solution for maybe. a third of the cost of a Dino retune. Its effects on fuel consumption are negligible and has no MoT drawbacks as bike emissions remain exempt......except when leaving the factory.
     
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  4. Richard James Malik

    Richard James Malik New Member

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    I will obviously look into a booster plug if the throttle really is as I experienced today.
    I find it amazing that all tTriumph water cooled twins would be like this due to emission regulations. My BMW had to comply to the same regs. and was totally smooth at low revs.
    Is it possible that this problem only manifests on some bikes as surely if every bike had this there would be many more complaints. I have yet to see a road test mentioning it.
    Thank you for your replies
     
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  5. joe mc donald

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    Welcome to the Family if I haven't said it yet. I found my t120 very laid back. I had Norman Hyde cans and decated. It was a real lazy machine I found. Always up and down gears in town. Motorway was great.
    Ride Safe
    Joe.
     
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  6. Richard James Malik

    Richard James Malik New Member

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    Thanks Joe,
    From what you say it seems it isn't all bikes that are overly sharp.
    If that is the case it make you wonder if there is a batch of faulty ECU's that Triumph should be investigating.
    People shouldn't have to be fitting booster plugs to make their bikes smooth at low speeds.
    Does this problem occur on the triples, they also have to comply with emission controls.
     
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  7. joe mc donald

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    Had a 2012 sprint and don't know but that was as smooth and well behaved a bike as you would want. As I say my t120 was to laid back for town work never snatchy. Worth asking the dealers
    Ride Safe
    Joe.
     
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  8. macamxthe1st

    macamxthe1st Well-Known Member

    I have a 2018 T100 in standard Mech trim and find it to be butter smooth. I tried a T120 and found it's delivery to be poor by comparison.

    Geoff.
     
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  9. joe mc donald

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    I have the 2018 T100 now and love it. Does everything you want it to do.
    Ride Safe
    Joe.
     
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  10. Richard James Malik

    Richard James Malik New Member

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    Well after all my complaining, I have to admit that the problems have mostly been cured by a recalibration. Of my wrist !
     
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  11. john tiley

    john tiley New Member

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    My 2018 T120 is not nice at low revs - man at Triumph dealer says 'yeah they're all like that', & advised that I ride it in 'rain mode', makes a slight difference but it's not right, think he must have been on a sales prevention course, so I am considering a new Royal Enfield 650 next time (almost half the price)
     
  12. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Not wishing to be harsh towards Royal Enfield, but judging by the quality of the finish on the ones at the Bike Show - especially the mirrors, levers and bars - they are probably half the quality.
     
  13. Hamburg

    Hamburg Senior Member

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    All new bikes take some getting used to. I stalled my ST first time I rode it, compared with the old carbed bikes I’d been riding I felt that the fueling was snatchy

    1000 miles on I can’t imagine riding anything else, I suppose I’ve just got used to it.
     
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  14. john tiley

    john tiley New Member

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    Yes - you tend to get what you pay for & can appreciate you can't get it right for everyone - all the time! Must be honest I have been spoilt by Honda, still have my Valkyrie I bought new 20 years ago!
     
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  15. Eastbournemark

    Eastbournemark Proud Snowflake

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    Stick with it John. All be it mine is a 2016 T120 with a few miles on it the low rev speeds are fine but as I mailed earlier Booster Plug did make a difference at low speeds. Irritating response from your dealer by the way - not helpful
     
  16. BigCLM

    BigCLM Senior Member

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    I have a 2018 Street Twin. I believe the ECU is programmed the same for the T100. My bike has been flawless for 1 year now and 4,500 miles. All of my old bikes were carbed and the ST throttle did take a little time to get used to. But it was me, not the bike.
    Just give it time. Enjoy?
     
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  17. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Having said that, I think they're probably priced about right though and they look decent enough.
     
  18. john tiley

    john tiley New Member

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  19. john tiley

    john tiley New Member

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    Yes I will stick with it, it's one of the 59, 'spirit of 59's' & as yet just over 1000 miles, I would be interested to find out more about the 'booster plug', if you could enlighten me I would be grateful.
     
  20. Rich Bryce

    Rich Bryce Dead Eye Dick

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    Welcome John. Give it a few miles in the nicer weather and see if you get used to it.
     
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