America Efi 2008

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  1. Skywalker

    Skywalker New Member

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    My america efi won’t run no power to the pump dash lights and the starter all fuses ok battery good please help , regards skywalker
     
  2. Sprinter

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    Start with battery you need a certain amount of power to turn over otherwise the ECU wont let you try. Even a strong reading is not always a guarantee of a good battery. Multi meter? Dont run out and spend on a new one. Test this one
     
  3. Skywalker

    Skywalker New Member

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  4. Skywalker

    Skywalker New Member

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    Good morning battery is new with full charge . Fuses all good lighting all good just the starting circuit. Starter dash lights fuel pump . Regards skywalker
     
  5. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    Sprinter is right mate
    You might think that the battery is charged but it must have 12.6volts or the ECU won’t play ball :(
    My 09 Speedmaster is exactly the same....12.6volts or nothing happens :mad:
    Have a check with a multi meter or put the battery on charge :)
    Really can’t emphasise enough the battery must have at least 12.6volts:eek:
     
  6. Skywalker

    Skywalker New Member

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  7. Skywalker

    Skywalker New Member

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    Battery reading 13.84 could the ecu failed
     
  8. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    With your voltmeter, check the following :

    Sidestand switch; clutch switch; kill switch. If any of these are not working correctly they will not open the starting circuit.
     
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  9. Sprinter

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    Dont worry about ECU, highly unlikely
     
  10. Skywalker

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  11. Skywalker

    Skywalker New Member

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    thebiglad, post: 167031, member: 655"]With your voltmeter, check the following :

    Sidestand switch; clutch switch; kill switch. If any of these are not working correctly they will not open the starting circuit.[/QUOTE]
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  12. Pete Farrell

    Pete Farrell Active Member

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    Had this problem a few years ago on my Multistrada it turned out to be a fault on the sidestand switch. Cleaned all the crap off white greased it all re assembled and bingo job done. Good luck.
     
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  13. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    Something I’ve done before and is a little bit embarrassing is use the kill switch to stop the engine before removing the key :)
    No problem with that except that I hardly ever use the kill switch so when I’ve gone back to the bike and it won’t start I found myself checking fuses etc with a multi meter :confused:
    This was in my garage but I have on occasion done this whilst out riding and stopped for a coffee or something :confused:
    Felt pretty dumb when I realised what I’ve done :(
    Have a look mate and if you find the kill switch in the off position your problem could be solved :)
    Then to save embarrassing yourself you could say that you’re an electrical wizard and completely overhauled the electrical system and fixed it through the process of elimination :p
    Or you could tell the truth and we’ll all laugh at you :joy:
     
  14. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Not as dumb as me when I did the same thing with the Enfield - 10 minutes of trying to kick start the bugger until I realised! :confused::confused:
    (and yes - people were watching. Why is that when it starts first kick there is no one around to witness your startling achievement?)
     
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  15. Sprinter

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    That never happened to me although once I am an electrical wizard and completely overhauled the electrical system and fixed it through the process of elimination
     
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  16. Skywalker

    Skywalker New Member

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    Thanks everyone . Not the kill switch. I will try the side stand switch.
     
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  17. Sprinter

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    Sidestand down bike in gear?
     
  18. Skywalker

    Skywalker New Member

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    Thanks for your input stand up out of gear . Regards skywalker
     
  19. Sprinter

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    Starting System Symptoms:

    Weak battery symptoms:
    -- Slow cranking.
    -- Stops cranking suddenly on compression stroke with button pressed.
    -- Starts when starter button is released at end of cranking.
    Repair:
    -- Charge/Test/Replace battery.
    Failure Modes:
    -- Loss of capacity. Appears to charge, voltage good but no reserve for starting.
    -- Won't hold a charge.
    -- Low voltage/cell failure.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Check fluid levels regularly
    -- Maintain full charge: Regular riding, trickle charger.

    Ignition Coil failure symptoms:
    -- Hard starting/misfiring during cranking.
    -- Rough idle that can't be tuned out with carb adjustments and carb cleaning.
    -- Idle misfire clears with new sparkplugs, returns in a few hundred miles
    Repair:
    -- Replace: Preferably with Nology for higher reliability than stock Gill coils.
    Failure Mode:
    -- Shorted turns in secondary resulting in weak spark.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None
    Testing:

    Pickup Coil failure symptoms:
    -- No spark at all
    -- Spark quits with engine hot, returns when engine cool.
    -- Note: Pickup coil failure is total. There is no random misfire spark loss.
    Repair:
    -- Replace pickup coil
    Failure mode:
    -- Thermal intermittant with long (15-30 minute) period.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None. Get a spare.
    Testing:
    -- Ohms checks hot and cold.

    Worn starter symptoms:
    -- Sometimes won't crank until the bike is rocked in gear.
    -- Excessively noisy cranking with a grinding sound.
    -- Click from under seat but no cranking.
    Failure Mode:
    -- Brush wear progressing to commutator damage.
    -- Bearing failure related to brush wear.
    Repair:
    -- Rebuild or replace.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Maintan battery in peak condition.
    -- Follow proper starting procedures. Neutral, clutch in.
    -- Crank 5-10 seconds at a time max., switch off for twice as long before cranking again.

    Worn sprag clutch symptoms:
    -- Very loud rattling when cranking
    -- Starter spins but engine doesn't turn
    Falure Mode:
    -- Breakage
    Repair:
    -- Replace sprag clutch
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Maintain battery in peak condition.
    -- Follow proper starting procedures. Neutral, clutch in.

    Worn starter solenoid:
    -- Click from under seat but no cranking.
    -- Won't crank after rocking bike.
    -- Starter continues to run after bike starts and won't stop until the battery is disconnected.
    Failure mode:
    -- Internal contact damage resulting in non-conduction.
    -- Internal contact damage resulting in contacts welding shut.
    -- Internal damage/wear prevents solenoid core movement.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None.
    Repair:
    -- Replace starter solenoid.
    Testing:
    -- For no cranking, short across solenoid high-power terminals. Normal operation denotes failed solenoidcontacts.

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  20. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    Hey I don’t suppose theirs a video of that incident.....is their???:eek:
     
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