Tiger 800 Thinking of buying a Tiger 800 XC SE

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  1. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    After a recent ride out on my 2012 Speed Triple I am not sure how much longer I can put up with cramped knees on longer trips. The paint job on the special addition Tiger 800 XC caught my eye at the bike show last year. Test rode an older version of the 800 last year and feels lots more spacious and comfortable, just not sure about losing 30 odd BHP?? Did try the Explorer but for me its too big.

    Any other owners on here that can give some feedback on how good the Tiger 800 XC is to live with?

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  2. roadrider

    roadrider First Class Member

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    I know my mate went from a Speed to a Tiger(road) and loves it. Doesn't miss the HP at all. Last time I met him he told me it was "the Holy Grail".
    Though he did say it was better after he'd fitted some decent road tyres.
    We all rode down to France last year with a couple of BMW GS's and he had no problem keeping up.

    I had one for a couple of hours and was quite impressed with it.
    I have noticed the second hand prices are coming down and I might look at getting one as a second bike next year.
     
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  3. Englishman

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    I've ridden one quite a few times, One of our regular tour members had one and we swap bikes on tour a lot he bought it new on a 61 reg and did a couple of tours on it. don't know if it was an XC or a standard one but I have done very long days on one of 200 miles plus.
    I liked it, certainly wasn't lacking in power and handling was brilliant. What let it down as a tourer was the small screen, over 80MPH was hard work on the motorway. Another mate bought it off him when he came to swap it and fitted it with an expensive Madstad screen which improved it. The mate that bought it originally was 58 years old at the time and found the tiger to be the most comfy bike he had owned for many years. Why he sold it and then bought a Honda crossrunner is still a mystery to all including himself. I'm used to big touring bikes and won't pretend the tiger was as comfy or luxurious as one of those. Neither the BMW RT or the GS or the Varadero that I have owned and toured on can be compared to the Tiger 800. They were all better touring bikes but the tiger was fast, agile, fun and very capable, just not as good at 300 mile days.

    If your concern is just the lack of 30BHP then in my view, you should do it. If you are regularly using all the power that the speed triple makes, out on the road then the 30BHP reduction can only be a good thing for you and the tiger will be majestically comfortable by comparison.

    Al.
     
  4. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    Thanks for the replies guys, I think if you want a bike that is fun for blasts out, light weight, can do long distance tours and still cope with a dirt road then what ever you buy will be a compromise to some extent. Did the big power adventure bike thing with a Ducati Multistrada 1200 which I would probably still have had it not been so unbelievably unreliable :frown: Think 94 BHP is probably enough as I don't intend to ride two up (Mrs has a Street Triple), think the size of me dictates that I need the more upright, relaxed riding position.
    Going to book a back to back test on both the Tiger 800 XC and the Tiger 1050 sport then see what sort of a deal my local dealers are able to offer. Not sure I like the look of the older style 1050 and can you buy a bike you don't think is good looking????

    Richard
     
  5. mr.h

    mr.h Senior Member

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    Hi Richard, I have been looking at both a Tiger 800 and an Explorer at Webbs - I am 6ft and 3/4" ish :biggrin: and found the Explorer felt a bit heavy but the pegs felt right - nice and comfy, the 800 felt more cramped on my legs than my Speed ( same as your Speed) Don't get me wrong the 800 felt quite light and flickable but it did feel cramped compared?
    I am booked in to test ride the BMW S 1000 R Sport when it comes out in March but I love the feel and sound of a triple so that will play a big part on my next purchase :upyeah:

    Apple Von Crumble seems to love his Tiger 800 and he is over 6ft tall so it can't be that bad? Check his youtube channel for some rides :smile:
     
  6. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    Watched some of Apple Von Crumbles stuff...... foul-mouthed at times, think I prefer Baron Von Grumble.

    Need to do some test rides to be sure mr H
     
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    mr.h Senior Member

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    Fair play BVG is more safe for work as far a language goes but AVC is pretty funny if you like his sort of vlogging! enjoy whatever you choose mate as we all know the wrong ride is an expensive mistake :eek:
     
  8. folkbloke

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    #8 folkbloke, Jan 31, 2014
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    I had a Tiger 1050 for a couple of years and for some reason I was given an 800XC every time the bike had a service (and as I did 17k in 2 years there were a few of them :wink:)

    A brilliant bike. I was doing two 150 mile round trips a week to Essex then (I still am!) and put a fair few miles on the XC. It was lighter than the 1050, better on fuel than the 1050, handled equally as well and was fast enough for me. A little high revving perhaps on the motorway but I soon got used to it. The screen was a bit small (as has been mentioned) but didn't give me any real issues. Larger screens are available of course.

    I wouldn't own one though as it was simply too tall for me (it's taller than the standard 800 roadie) and every time I stopped I was on the edge of dropping it. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to deal with a passenger and luggage.

    Recommended (if you're not a short arse) :smile:

    Edit: Someone said earlier about buying a Crossrunner and not knowing why they did it! I was the same with the 1050. I never really liked the bike although I had a degree of grudging respect for it. Too many issues to be a truly brilliant machine. I tested the Sport and really didn't like it, The seat felt like a plank and I couldn't honestly see what it was going to give me that I didn't already have with the 1050. It was not a bad bike by any stretch of the imagination but compared to the 1050 it wasn't so significantly better for me to justify the extra dosh. And as an aside, I also took a Crosstourer (not a Crossrunner!) out on test and hated it with a passion. I found it really uncomfortable, and for me the ergos were all wrong. Bloody amazing engine though! Supersmooth and silly fast.
     
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  9. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Tiger+800+xc+se&rlz=1C1GGGE_en-gbGB411GB432&espv=210&es_sm=122&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ezntUtj1Hc_o7Aao-oAg&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1920&bih=955#facrc=_&imgrc=W813cTtqM2YlsM%253A%3BlYAxp0j6RxSqyM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.asphaltandrubber.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2013%252F11%252F2014-Triumph-Tiger-800-XC-SE-04.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.asphaltandrubber.com%252Fbikes%252F2014-triumph-tiger-800-xc-se-hot%252F%3B2000%3B1821

    Well that's it the deal is done and the Speed Triple is going! Tiger 800 XC SE now ordered for 1st March. Many thanks to Pidcock Triumph for sorting a good part ex and discount on the extras. Bike will come with taller touring screen, heated grips, top box, and panniers.

    Will be selling a few of the extra bits I take off the Speed before she goes.
     
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    What colour have you gone for Richard?
     
  11. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    Its a red frame black tank with sparkly flecks in the black..... that's what makes it an SE or special Edition or Triumphs excuse to charge an additional £150.00. After the test ride I am sure I can live with less power in exchange for more comfort and practicality.
     
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  12. Lee

    Lee New Member

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    you get yours the day I get my xc se too, it'll be my first triumph though since I've only ever owned Kawasaki's. it's good that it comes with all the extras as well isn't it!
     
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  13. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    Well that's two of us with great taste anyway! Had the Speed Triple 18 months and its been ultra reliable (no doubt on sale at Pidcocks Nottingham from March) so am quite confident the Tiger will be a great bike to own. Looking forward to riding it in the Alps this summer.
     
  14. Lee

    Lee New Member

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    it's just going to be little tours for me this year as I haven't been on any long tours yet. going to do wales and Scotland this year and then start doing the big stuff next year. was going to go Austria and Switzerland with my uncle but I am not really experienced enough to be going that kind of distance.
     
  15. SteveJ

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    I think these bikes are very under rated Richard and the engine is a good size and alot better than the 800 GS.

    Not sure what you mean about issues with the pegs on the Speed Triple but that might have something to do with me owning an 09 Blade before then.

    So what extras are you going for Arrow Exhaust would be the first on my list :biggrin:
     
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  16. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    Not really one for the loud exhausts Steve but going for Satnav, taller screen (as I'm a big git), panniers and top box so I can carry the wife's stuff as well as mine when we tour (she has a Street Triple). It doesn't come standard with a center stand either so paddock stand bobbins. That is it for the moment.

    There is not much wrong with the pegs on the Speed Triple..... its my knees; too many years spent kneeling laying patios. I like the sportier bikes but I can not ride them for long.

    From the hour or so I had on the bike I would say that 800 engine is great. I know it wont rev as high as the Daytona or Street Triple engine on which its based but it pulls smooth and hard from 2000 rpm right up to the 10,000 red line. I'm hoping this is going to be a keeper.
     
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  17. SteveJ

    SteveJ Super Moderator

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    #17 SteveJ, Feb 2, 2014
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    No centre stand???
    That is a bit naughty on triumph's behalf. I think these are actually better than the explorer as they are just too big.

    I know if I was back in New Zealand this would be the sort of bike I would go for as there is a load of unsealed roads to play on as well as loads of twisty roads.

    Found this a video of riding over into Lees Valley in New Zealand which is only about 15 minutes from Oxford where I grew up, great fun :)

     
  18. Explorer

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    Well Richard I don't think you will regret the 800, I had one and changed it for an explorer when they came out. The 800 can shift and is an easy bike to live with.
     
  19. Lee

    Lee New Member

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    have you had a look at an xc se in real life yet Richard? I went to have a look at one my local triumph have gotten in today and it's amazing. getting all the accessories put on it now. (I bought it before seeing it in person) don't know if you did the same.
     
  20. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    I looked and sat on the bike at the NEC Bike show November last year, had already had a test ride earlier in the year while my Speed was being serviced and liked it a lot but when I saw the SE I really liked it .... reminded me of my red trellis framed Ducati which was great to ride but totally unreliable!
    Liked the Triumph offer of free topbox, free heated grips, and free tall screen. Ive also had the pannier, pannier inner bags, and GPS Garmin 660 mount at a reduced price and free fitting so very happy with the deal.
     
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