Scrambler Getting The Front Wheel Off...

Discussion in 'Thruxton, Scrambler & Trident' started by seanb, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. seanb

    seanb New Member

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    Hi,

    Anyone tried removing front wheel from a Street Scrambler?

    Mine is sat in my garage with a flat tyre having been recovered there following a flat. Tyre went very flat very quickly so I can't pump and ride to tyre place, need to get wheel off...it has a centre stand I think but the foot plate bit is too low to the floor (only about 5mm gap) to enable me to lower the back of the bike down enough to get the wheel out , and in any case there's only a very small gap between the floor and the rear wheel (not actually tried yet as recovering from foot op). Even if I can get the wheel out I'm pretty sure it won't go back in, unless I guess, I deflate the new/fixed tyre and squeeze it in but not too ken on that idea. My GS has loads of clearance so dead easy to drop the front out but I think the Scrambler will be tricky.

    Anyone had to do it and if so how? I'm wondering if I need to get a front paddock stand (already got rear though not yet sure if it will fit the Scrambler). Or one of those lift things that you pop under the frame (after removing the plastic crud guard thing)? Alternatively I guess I could try plugging the tyre myself then riding to tyre shop and if it goes flat half way there call recovery again...

    Any advice gratefully received!
    Ta
    Sean
     
  2. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Crème de la Crème

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    How about using a wooden block under the stand, it’ll make raising the bike onto the stand a bit harder but you don’t have to use one that’s mega thick, just an inch or so then place some weight on the back seat to hold the back of the bike down. That ought to give you enough clearance especially if you remove the front mudguard as well though that might not be necessary.
     
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  3. seanb

    seanb New Member

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    #3 seanb, Nov 9, 2017
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    good idea thanks Yorkshireman, I had thought of that but sort of discounted for the reason you mention - the bike is quite difficult to get up on the stand normally, not the easiest thing to use for some reason, so I think it will be harder with wood under, worth a go first through rather than splashing out on a lift.

    forgot to ask about torque setting as well...anyone happen to know settings for the spindle, pinch bolts and brake callipers? Thanks.
     
  4. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Crème de la Crème

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    Ok, how about going for one leg at a time, lean the bike whilst sliding the block under one leg then repeat for the other side.
     
  5. GaryM

    GaryM It's him, you know who. Him from you know ....

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    Just need to put a bit of wood under the front that raises the front (to give enough clearance of courseto remove the wheel).
    Then put some wood under the stand, then as you would have done weight the back end down and remove the wheel.
     
  6. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    Buy one of these Bike jacks, they always come in handy.
    circa £35
    Bloody hard pulling the bike onto the centre stand on 1" thick wood.
    Bike Jack, mudguard off, caliper off, wheel out.

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  7. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Torque settings for you
     

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  8. Johnjo

    Johnjo Senior Member

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    I had a similar situation a long time ago. I used the opportunity to try plugging a tyre for the first time. Admittedly the offending screw was right in the middle of the tread. Anyhoo it worked a treat. Really chuffed at my new found skill. Rode the bike to have a new tyre fitted. Give it a go. :p

    JJ
     
  9. seanb

    seanb New Member

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    some good ideas there chaps, I have plenty of wood offcuts from a recently laid floor (so they are wide and hence stable) so I might give that a go. That bike jack was the sort of thing I was looking at MickEng, looks like a useful thing to have anyway but I might try the wood and get the jack onto the Christmas present ideas list...

    thanks for the torque settings Crispey.

    Jonjo, still tempted to try plugging and I think the offending fault is in middle of tyre but it's showing as a roughly 1cm gash on the surface, not sure what the actual hole into the side is like, so I might be on a loser with that one in this situation.

    Shame the puncture happened on a Sunday not a weekday else I would have got recovery to take me straight to tyre shop!!

    Thanks all. Good to get a load of helpful suggestions rather than the sarcastic unhelpful bs you often get on BMW forum!!
     
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  10. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    The sarcasm is on it's way:p
    I've just been a bit busy that's all :joy:
     
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  11. seanb

    seanb New Member

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    to be fair I probably deserve it, sat on my arse recovering from foot op I have had plenty of time to think up solutions but failed to do so instead relying on the experience of others!!
     
  12. seanb

    seanb New Member

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    which way do I turn the wrench to loosen the bolt, left or right? :p
     
  13. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    You jest?

    Loosey lefty, righty tighty.
     
  14. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    just hit it with a lump hammer
     
  15. seanb

    seanb New Member

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    yes I jest Callumity, though I do sometimes have a heavy hand which results in righty tighty tighty oh...loosey!!!
     
  16. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    Angle grinder :p
     
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  17. GaryM

    GaryM It's him, you know who. Him from you know ....

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    Nearly did that with a main stand once, fecker was so rusted and seized.
    Impact hammer ( yes the old fashioned type you hit with a hammer ) eventually got it loose.
    I did think cutting it off and the bolt holding in place was going to be the only way to get it off.
    Stripped it back , painted it and put half a tanker of grease on the bolts nuts and bearings ( that surprised me ) that were there.
    No fecking way was it happening again or that I would help that particular friend to sort it again.
     
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  18. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi Sean, the Street Scrambler, does it have alloy or spoked wheels ? If it has spokes then it'll be a tubed (like a bicycle) tyre and will need the tube patching.
     
  19. seanb

    seanb New Member

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    #18 seanb, Nov 10, 2017
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    good point, they are spoked though pretty sure it said tubeless on side of tyre, maybe tubeless tyre but with a tube? I am going to try raising bike on wood to get wheel out anyway so it does't matter. If that fails then I will prop the front wheel on a large plank then dig a hole in the garage floor underneath the wheel so that I can drop the wheel down into it :)
     
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  20. MickEng

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    Beware of left hand threads :kissing:
     
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  21. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    If it’s a spiked wheel chances are it’ll be tubed, even though it says tubeless.
     
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