2005 Tiger Not Starting.

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  1. Slats

    Slats New Member

    Oct 3, 2017
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    Anybody have a starting problem,it started with the bike cutting out only in first gear then hard starting to the point of not starting at all, over a period of two years now it doesn't start.changed fuel pump,crank p s. Stepper motor. Plugs. When it first started failing plugged a laptop with triumph programming but would not recognize the bike. Any ideas
     
  2. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    Hi mate and welcome
    I'm sure someone will be able to help soon :)
     
  3. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Welcome in, sorry to hear of your troubles, somewhere on here is a list of starting problems, causes and cures but I can't find it! But maybe it's an ecu problem
     
  4. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

    Sep 25, 2013
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    Hi Slats, I've just sold my Tiger 955i but at one stage had a problem which sounds similar to yours and it was linked with the stepper motor (IACV ) which amongst other things controls idling.

    From memory there are 3 or 4 vacuum pipes that connect the IACV to inlet manifolds and one other thing - memory failing - and these pipes deteriorate over time and start to leak. This the IACV from working properly.

    I bought a metre length of silicone vacuum hose, cut it to length and replaced all the original vacuum hoses. Never had any more trouble after that.

    I bought it off Ebay and, from memory so please to check, the internal diameter was 7mm.
     
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  5. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    Starting System Symptoms:

    Weak battery symptoms:
    -- Slow cranking.
    -- Stops cranking suddenly on compression stroke with button pressed.
    -- Starts when starter button is released at end of cranking.
    Repair:
    -- Charge/Test/Replace battery.
    Failure Modes:
    -- Loss of capacity. Appears to charge, voltage good but no reserve for starting.
    -- Won't hold a charge.
    -- Low voltage/cell failure.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Check fluid levels regularly
    -- Maintain full charge: Regular riding, trickle charger.

    Ignition Coil failure symptoms:
    -- Hard starting/misfiring during cranking.
    -- Rough idle that can't be tuned out with carb adjustments and carb cleaning.
    -- Idle misfire clears with new sparkplugs, returns in a few hundred miles
    Repair:
    -- Replace: Preferably with Nology for higher reliability than stock Gill coils.
    Failure Mode:
    -- Shorted turns in secondary resulting in weak spark.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None
    Testing:

    Pickup Coil failure symptoms:
    -- No spark at all
    -- Spark quits with engine hot, returns when engine cool.
    -- Note: Pickup coil failure is total. There is no random misfire spark loss.
    Repair:
    -- Replace pickup coil
    Failure mode:
    -- Thermal intermittant with long (15-30 minute) period.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None. Get a spare.
    Testing:
    -- Ohms checks hot and cold.

    Worn starter symptoms:
    -- Sometimes won't crank until the bike is rocked in gear.
    -- Excessively noisy cranking with a grinding sound.
    -- Click from under seat but no cranking.
    Failure Mode:
    -- Brush wear progressing to commutator damage.
    -- Bearing failure related to brush wear.
    Repair:
    -- Rebuild or replace.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Maintan battery in peak condition.
    -- Follow proper starting procedures. Neutral, clutch in.
    -- Crank 5-10 seconds at a time max., switch off for twice as long before cranking again.

    Worn sprag clutch symptoms:
    -- Very loud rattling when cranking
    -- Starter spins but engine doesn't turn
    Falure Mode:
    -- Breakage
    Repair:
    -- Replace sprag clutch
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Maintain battery in peak condition.
    -- Follow proper starting procedures. Neutral, clutch in.

    Worn starter solenoid:
    -- Click from under seat but no cranking.
    -- Won't crank after rocking bike.
    -- Starter continues to run after bike starts and won't stop until the battery is disconnected.
    Failure mode:
    -- Internal contact damage resulting in non-conduction.
    -- Internal contact damage resulting in contacts welding shut.
    -- Internal damage/wear prevents solenoid core movement.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None.
    Repair:
    -- Replace starter solenoid.
    Testing:
    -- For no cranking, short across solenoid high-power terminals. Normal operation denotes failed solenoidcontacts.

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    Please free to comment, make suggestions, etc.
     
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  6. Slats

    Slats New Member

    Oct 3, 2017
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    Ju
     
  7. Slats

    Slats New Member

    Oct 3, 2017
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    Just finished installing used main harness that I got from eBay,it fired right up happy days. Test ride soon.
     
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  8. Slats

    Slats New Member

    Oct 3, 2017
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    Took the tiger out for test ride and it ran great. Happy Days
     
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