POLITICS

A well educated clever lady Nicola Sturgeon but unfortunately obsessed with Scottish independence as the protege of Alex Salmond.

As a child I heard 'grown ups' say "never discuss politics or religion it always leads to trouble"
How true that was!

 

Yeah about 3 quid! I got paid in guineas once!!

 

SPOILER ALERT - REAL POLITICAL anti-brexit RANT AHEAD

Leaving aside that Brexit was won based on an undemocratic campaign of misrepresentation, half-truths and damned lies by politicians who never in a month of Sundays expected to win, a referendum which itself was introduced by a Tory government that was in power only cos they committed gross election fraud in marginal seats (significant disguised overspending targeted at swing voters), many of the 'dis-enfranchised' who voted Leave said to the Remainers, 'feck you, we couldn't be any worse off even if the economy does crash and burn' ....

... well chickens are coming home to roost. e.g. My mate was soooo smug after the vote. I said you've shot your self in the foot, the pound will nose dive and prices will go up, and it'll be a big headache for poorer folk. 'Won't affect me', he said 'cos I only buy basics weekly shopping these days, and the price of bread isn't going to be a fiver is it'. Fair enough. But he is a Tesco shopper. And every week he buys gallons of Strongbow cider in those multi-packs. Well Tesco have now stopped stocking those packs cos Heineken wanted to increase prices largely based on Brexit fecking up the value of sterling. So now he'll have to start drinking Tesco own brand Value Cider, and that p!$$ in a bottle gives him a roaring headache.

I'm too polite to say 'told you so', cos Brexitears (27% of the adult population) know they got it wrong and are too stubborn and/or embarrassed to admit they are taking the majority of the country who didn't vote for this to hell in a wheelbarrow.

Just my opinion.

 

It was going so well Rich until you said

"a Tory government that was in power only cos they committed gross election fraud in marginal seats (significant disguised overspending targeted at swing voters)"

They were and are in power because the Labour Party commmitted suicide. The Tories would have won anyway, and whilst they seem to have broken the rules I'm sure it happens at every election and it seems, frankly, trivial in scale.

 

Mythical creature... is that not an honest politician!

 

Not trivial at all to us Guardianisters
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/mar/23/conservative-election-scandal-victory-2015-expenses

 

Plastic Jock here too.

 

A Nicola Sturgeon joke for all you Scots ...

https://www.facebook.com/geoff.oates.77/posts/690206067807289

 

Nicola Sturgeon is touring Perthshire in the First Minister's chauffeur driven car. Suddenly a cow jumps out into the road. They hit it full on and the car comes to a stop. Nicola in her usual jaunty manner, says to the chauffeur : " You get out and check - you were driving." The chauffeur gets out, checks and reports that the animal is dead. " You were driving, go and tell the farmer," says Nicola, I can't afford to be blamed for anything.
The chauffeur walks up the drive to the farmhouse and returns five hours later totally plastered, his hair ruffled and with a big grin on his face. " My God, what happened to you ?" asks Nicola. The chauffeur replies : " When I got there, the farmer opened his best bottle of malt whisky, the wife gave me a slap up meal and the daughter made love to me." " What on earth did you say?" asks Nicola. I knocked on the door and when it was answered, I said to them, I'm Nicola Sturgeon's chauffeur and I've just killed the cow."

 

That jokes doing the rounds, 3rd time it's been posted in the last week!

 

That's just the thing Scotland is not subsidised, go look at the figures. Not GERS as they are not a true indication of wealth.
Scotland is a net exporter of goods unlike England. Westminster currently reserves all taxes from oil, whisky and a few others for itself, those figures DO NOT go into GERS. They go straight to Westminister.
Scotland would not be paying into your nuclear industry, Trident or H2S. Englands obsession with WMD will also come to an end as well as there's no where to put them. The MOD would be unable to play its war games around various parts of Scotland. Very few live firing ranges in England.
Along with other things.
Yes if we go independent then we are out of Europe but then ( this time I will say it ) England has already taken us out anyway as they believed the likes of Farage, Johnson etc about the evils of immigration.
At least if we are independent if we want to we can rejoin Europe. Contrary to the popular MSM there is no queuing to join, you either meet the criteria or you don't.
Again it keeps on getting said about Spain blocking us, I think Spain would be spoken to by the likes of Germany etc and told to toe the line.
The only way to stop independance happening at some point is change to a federal parliament. That is Westminister decides what happens to England, Holyrood to Scotland etc. Obviously matters such as defence immigration etc would still need to be decided together.
Until this happens then independance will happen sooner or later.
Westminister ruling the roost as it does presently can not go on. Westminister can still overrule any of the devolved parliaments or even dissolve them as and when it wishes. It's not a matter of 83% of the vote is held in England but recognising that different parts of the UK are so very different.
This is supposed to be a union of four countries. It's not it's a very biased union with the little Englunder attitude of do as we say and xenophobia.

 

nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo me too.

 

Don't go mate ... we'll get back to posting b*ll*cks again!

 

Haven't stopped that personally. @half ton dont go just don't read the politics thread. It'll peter out shortly

 

Yawn....

 

I know if it's not Scottish independence then it's rusty spokes in Scotland

Could there be a connection ???

A sneaky English plot to wipe out or p*** off Scottish Triumph riders ?

Still a good laugh though!

 

What has Peter done? (See - back to b*ll*cks!)