Bridgestone S23 Tyres

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  1. Iceman

    Iceman Crème de la Crème

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    #1 Iceman, May 1, 2024
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    I can't seem to find my original post regarding a new set of Bridgestone S23 tyres to my Street Triple 765rs so hence the new post. I was offered a set of Bridgestone S23 tyres at trade with free fitting to loose wheels, a simple enough task to remove the wheels, not so unfortunately, first off the wheel spindle was seized in solid and no amount of gentle coaxing would shift it, the heat gun sensible applied failed to shift it, so it was the internal bearing puller to the rescue, and this did the job nicely, offside inner bearing was completely worn out, evidence of heat on said bearings, the axle shaft was in a poor state with deep pitting and heavy corrosion, as was the spacer. I thought a straightforward but expensive job, as everything needed replacing, it then got interesting, some parts where on backorder, some had been discontinued (what on a 3.5 year old machine, anyway I chased down and located the necessary OEM parts and these parts are not cheap, so a full set of new bearings and seals, new spindle, new spacers, and new chain adjuster blocks, whilst waiting for parts to arrive I cleaned up the rear swingarm and linkages as these had surface corrosion, prepped, primer applied and then painted, I removed the chain rubbing strips and a load of grit was stuck to the swingarm under the strip (road grit and chain wax wat a mess), all cleaned up and looking like new, after cleaning up the wheels I had the S23 tyres fitted, and a week later had all the parts, a quick rebuild and thorough wash she is good to go, so tomorrow it will be out for a ride to see how the S23 tyres perform. What is a bit of a puzzle is in June 2023 in preparation for the IOM S100 I completed a 12,000 mile service including the valve clearances, the suspension was stripped down and I re greased everything, including the wheel spindle on re installing the back wheel, at that point everything was in excellent service condition, I can only think a couple of winter ride outs I had led to salted road residue getting into the hub, as it did throw a show shower on one ride, that said I did a pretty thorough job of cleaning the bike straight afterwards. It is a good job I do have the necessary tools to do all the work needed, given these bearings are parallel you do need a blind bearing puller, I know people who have used items such as expanding bolts amongst other things but there is a risk of damage to the wheels. When you really dig deep into the street triples the parts and build quality is not what it used to be, it may well be that given these are wholly made in Thailand apart from crankshafts, cams and cases, something has certainly gone wrong, yes the engines are fantastic as is the chassis, but the standard of finish and assembly is poor, and not suited to British weather, warmer climes have no real issues, but UK Weather they are not. Would I buy another Triumph unfortunately not, given the spares issue, both expensive and often hard to source some components, and the poor build quality reinforces my decision, in some ways I was like a stick of rock with Triumph written right through. The early Hinckley machines are fantastic, the quality of finish on say the 955i Speed Triples amongst others is great compared to what we have now, so a new make is on the horizon for me. My chopper project has somewhat stalled, due in part to some house upgrades, I say upgrades it is more a full on resto, I got inspired by the quality of the rooms at the Hotel Eiger recently. Ride safe all from an ageing Rocker.

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  2. Iceman

    Iceman Crème de la Crème

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    A couple more photos.

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  3. andyc1

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    My favourite Triumph! Not good to see that, surprised at the state of the axel as you say it was greased. How's the S23's? Been through a few sets of the S22's on the superduke and find them fantastic, faultless!
     
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  4. Eldon

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    Got to agree on your point about the quality going down.
    On one of my recent posts I commented then that they'd "value engineered" the fork internals of the street twin and not provided a positive locking face for the inner piston rod, unlike Royal Enfield :eek:
    Ram a brush handle in and hold on tight whilst the wife buzz gunned the lower bolt.

    On a different note, I put my 675 away end of last year and last week put it back on the road. Kept inside a dry garage, I was somewhat dismayed to find the Motul chain grease that I'd applied copiously before storage had still allowed the chain to go rusty :rolleyes:
    Not sure what happened there : unamused: but in future I won't be buying that again.
     
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  5. Iceman

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    I kept an open mind on the S23s, these had been released in January 2024, well after a short sensible run out of 10 miles on a tight twisty local road I was impressed, they were scrubbed in so to speak after the ride, what was apparent from the very off is the plusher ride, the tyres softened up the ride compared to my usual Metzler Racetech RRs, however the Metzler are a road legal race tyre so are not designed with comfort in mind, back to the Bridgestone's, I went out for a longer ride today and somewhat very spirited, the lean you can get on these S23s is nothing short of brilliant, nothing seemed to faze them, I got great feel from them, they are quick to turn in and hold firm on a fast exit, once you get a few miles up the road then they are good to go for whatever you throw at them, I genuinely believe that for road riding the limit will never be experienced they are that good, track use possibly, but you would really need to be pushing beyond my ability. The tyres were unfazed when I did some planned heavy braking, so again top marks from me. I can't comment yet on wet weather performance but I don't doubt they will be good. The photo is from the 10 mile short round trip, so even at this the lean angles you can get is impressive. Ride safe all from an ageing Rocker.

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  6. Helmut Visor

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    I have always rated the Bridgestones and used them for many years. My only criticism of them is that the centre wears quite quickly and you end up with a ledge to drop over to get to the edge. Don't get me wrong, this is after a decent while of use but there is more tyre left when I had to change because of it. Have gone on to the Dunlops now which gives a slightly more rounded profile and according to reviews keeps its shape for much longer. Haven't got to that stage yet but the feel is at least as good if not better than the Bridgestones right now. I guess only time will tell :cool:
     
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  7. Eldon

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    My bad memory of Bridgestone tyres was a BT015 rear, or something like that, on a Honda CB1000R.
    It took quite a while to warm up and gave me a few slides, luckily nothing terminal :poop: whereas the Michelins I've used since on the 765 have never done that.

    I don't sign up to the " this years version is far better than last years offering " and so still rate, and purchase, the original Michelin Pilot Powers. They've stood me well on a few bikes and at one time I was getting them for £140 pair delivered.
    I think I still have a new pair in the loft :cool::blush:
     
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  8. Iceman

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    I have run the Metzler Racetech RRs for a good few years now, I had Supercorsa's before that, even though the RRs only last a few thousand miles I just factor the cost in as general annual running costs, I would have gone for another set of RRs, however a chance for a set at trade, and free fitting to loose wheels was to good to say no to, hence the change to the S23s, when they wear out I will go back to the RRs, unless a similar deal was offered which I am doubtful, the reason I was offered the deal was the amount of business I put their way. The new breed of tyres are light years in front of those of just a few years ago. Some tyres also behave differently bike to bike, it's a case of finding a tyre that suits both machine and rider style, for spirited road riding most do prefer a more performance tyre, the down side is they wear out pretty fast compared to a harder compound touring/sport tyre, for me it's not a case of the latest this or that, it is what works for me on the road, going back to the sixties and early seventies I recall using Dunlop TT100s on various machines, a real improvement on the OEM fitted ones, however these bikes had a lot less power and basic suspension front and rear back then. Ride safe all from an ageing Rocker.
     
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  9. Eldon

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    My 675r is shod with racetech rr's and I rate them also @Iceman ;)
     
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